993 WB Values are UP!!!
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This one is puzzling...maybe it's all that Canadian smoke? 
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ra-s-coupe-28/
RNM at $165k + $5k
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ra-s-coupe-28/
RNM at $165k + $5k
- Chassis: WP0AA2994WS320420
- Canadian-Market Example
- 34k Kilometers (~21k Miles) Shown
- Black Paint
- Black Leather Upholstery
- Motor Sound Package
- Front Sport Seats
- M030 Sport Suspension
- Aerokit Front & Rear Spoilers
- 18" Hollow-Spoke Technology Wheels
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From: Phila region
I don’t follow WB prices too closely, but why do you guys think this car is over-priced? It has 21,000 miles and sport seats. Duty is 2.85% and brokerage is $395. Shipping costs are the same per mile from Canada or the US. So, $165k plus $4700 plus $395 = $170,100 approx. Wouldn’t a 21,000 mile WB in the US go for more on BAT.
- Canadian-Market Example
Yes, a 21k mile WB S, with sport seats and Aero (depending on preference), could go for much more depending on number of bidders.
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From: An old German inJuno Alaska, Sunny Florida
Canadian road salt???
[most of the Canadian Porsche we see here are super rusted to the point that we junk the bodies . I’m wondering why such of high price for a regular 993 with a few add ons. But in a hype market, there’s always victims. If you want to hack the price of a classic car. Just take to a familiar auction and have a friend bid to ridicule price then, Pay the fees but the tittle never changes hands or gets change to the actual owners other company name. Yes it have happened in Porsche market a lot. But that’s my opinion and don’t care what yours is. QUOTE=Onami;18979400]I don’t follow WB prices too closely, but why do you guys think this car is over-priced? It has 21,000 miles and sport seats. Duty is 2.85% and brokerage is $395. Shipping costs are the same per mile from Canada or the US. So, $165k plus $4700 plus $395 = $170,100 approx. Wouldn’t a 21,000 mile WB in the US go for more on BAT.[/QUOTE]
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I don’t follow WB prices too closely, but why do you guys think this car is over-priced? It has 21,000 miles and sport seats. Duty is 2.85% and brokerage is $395. Shipping costs are the same per mile from Canada or the US. So, $165k plus $4700 plus $395 = $170,100 approx. Wouldn’t a 21,000 mile WB in the US go for more on BAT.
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I will say from experience, many American buyers don’t want to deal with importing. It’s funny, because in the muscle car and antique motorcycle worlds, I haven’t encountered the same hesitancy. Not really sure why, as it is a easy process using a broker. Maybe it is as simple as there are enough US cars right now to satisfy demand, so why bother unless it is something really special? That said, most Canadian buyer’s prefer Canadian cars. I could care less where it was sold new as they are all German to me 😜
As for rusty Canadian 993’s…can’t say that I have seen one personally. Many of our sports cars are put away for the winter and our summers are short and not too hot, so I find Canadian interiors normally to be in nicer shape than some cars from very hot climates. Obviously, not all 993’s were put away for the winter when new, but I’d bet the Lion’s share were. Worst rust I’ve seen on a 993 was on a Florida coast car that was poorly stored. Ironically, it was in Canada!
As for rusty Canadian 993’s…can’t say that I have seen one personally. Many of our sports cars are put away for the winter and our summers are short and not too hot, so I find Canadian interiors normally to be in nicer shape than some cars from very hot climates. Obviously, not all 993’s were put away for the winter when new, but I’d bet the Lion’s share were. Worst rust I’ve seen on a 993 was on a Florida coast car that was poorly stored. Ironically, it was in Canada!
Last edited by Onami; Aug 25, 2023 at 07:54 PM.
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From: An old German inJuno Alaska, Sunny Florida
It must be all that Florida snow
I will say from experience, many American buyers don’t want to deal with importing. It’s funny, because in the muscle car and antique motorcycle worlds, I haven’t encountered the same hesitancy. Not really sure why, as it is a easy process using a broker. Maybe it is as simple as there are enough US cars right now to satisfy demand, so why bother unless it is something really special? That said, most Canadian buyer’s prefer Canadian cars. I could care less where it was sold new as they are all German to me 😜
As for rusty Canadian 993’s…can’t say that I have seen one personally. Many of our sports cars are put away for the winter and our summers are short and not too hot, so I find Canadian interiors normally to be in nicer shape than some cars from very hot climates. Obviously, not all 993’s were put away for the winter when new, but I’d bet the Lion’s share were. Worst rust I’ve seen on a 993 was on a Florida coast car that was poorly stored. Ironically, it was in Canada!
As for rusty Canadian 993’s…can’t say that I have seen one personally. Many of our sports cars are put away for the winter and our summers are short and not too hot, so I find Canadian interiors normally to be in nicer shape than some cars from very hot climates. Obviously, not all 993’s were put away for the winter when new, but I’d bet the Lion’s share were. Worst rust I’ve seen on a 993 was on a Florida coast car that was poorly stored. Ironically, it was in Canada!
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I've done it dozens of times and have never had a problem. I've done it twice this year both into Canada and into the US. Use a broker and they make sure it goes smoothly.
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I bought the cars by myself and had an agent in Germany for all paperwork and tax duties.
Frankly I don't understand why this would be a problem to handle. May be it was difficult in the 1970's but not in 2023 or during the last 20 years.
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"Most Canadian Porsches are rusty". Nothing like painting all with one brush. Because of course Canadian winters are worse than winters elsewhere. As @Onami said, many if not most store cars in inclement months. Just as in other countries. And yes, some here actually drive their Porsches in winter, again just like other countries. Crazy, ain't it?
I will say that in many markets, a "home market" car is worth more all else being equal.
I will say that in many markets, a "home market" car is worth more all else being equal.
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"Most Canadian Porsches are rusty". Nothing like painting all with one brush. Because of course Canadian winters are worse than winters elsewhere. As @Onami said, many if not most store cars in inclement months. Just as in other countries. And yes, some here actually drive their Porsches in winter, again just like other countries. Crazy, ain't it?
I will say that in many markets, a "home market" car is worth more all else being equal.
I will say that in many markets, a "home market" car is worth more all else being equal.
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