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Jun 16, 2023 | 06:03 AM

#3106

titleistaddict87

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Quote:

Originally Posted by L39E

I suppose it depends a lot on the condition/value of the car and the condition and quality of the seats, whether they are factory and original to the car (373/374 option), or OEM added vs. Waldemar added, etc. Maybe 5-10k, if you are talking about factory hardbacks that are also factory painted (XSA option) and in great shape on a low mileage car, a lot more..

Yes, we’re talking about the factory seats with XSA option. Appreciate the feedback.

Jun 16, 2023 | 11:16 AM

#3107

INTMD8

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Originally Posted by My993_4s_Dave

Frankly, I don't believe sports seats will add too much value to a 993. A car is always a combination of condition, maintenance records, ownerships and mileage to name the most important ones.
When you buy a car - you buy the whole package, with or without sports seats.

I believe, that sports seats, separated from a 993 are worth more than if they are included with the purchase of a 993.
In that case the value is probably around 5 - 10 K.

Just think about the turbo spoiler from the 993 TT. My car has the original turbo spoiler fitted to WB 993 4s, does that mean I would get the extra value for the highly expensive spoiler?
In don't think I would.

I don't think that's really comparable because sports seats could have been optioned on the car whereas the turbo spoiler could not.

Jun 16, 2023 | 12:40 PM

#3108

rsabeebe

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Originally Posted by INTMD8

I don't think that's really comparable because sports seats could have been optioned on the car whereas the turbo spoiler could not.

i assume he means the aero kit wing and not the standard turbo wing. for most people, i think the sport seats hold far more value than the aero kit wing. you're right about the 'package' of the car, but if i were considering a 4S with and a 4S without sport seats - everything else somehow equal - i would put at least a $5k premium of the seat upgrade. it's a simple matter of knowing what it would take to add them, if you truly would. most of us love sport seats and i do believe they carry a premium when factoring price.

Jun 16, 2023 | 01:06 PM

#3109

SToronto

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Would non factory optioned seats still add same value? Talking about a) aftermarket OE purchase b) That guy in Germany (name escapes me now)

Jun 16, 2023 | 01:17 PM

#3110

XUR

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Yes, given that good condition OEM Sport Seats are $10k for a pair. Waldemars obviously less so, but still a bonus over regular seats.

Jun 16, 2023 | 05:31 PM

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INTMD8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rsabeebe

i assume he means the aero kit wing and not the standard turbo wing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by My993_4s_Dave

Just think about the turbo spoiler from the 993 TT. My car has the original turbo spoiler fitted to WB 993 4s, does that mean I would get the extra value for the highly expensive spoiler?

I think he meant the turbo spoiler. For two identical cars (if that's even possible) I would spend more for sport seats as well.

Last edited by INTMD8; Jun 16, 2023 at 05:32 PM.

Jun 16, 2023 | 05:47 PM

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My993_4s_Dave

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Quote:

Originally Posted by INTMD8

I think he meant the turbo spoiler. For two identical cars (if that's even possible) I would spend more for sport seats as well.

I stated 'original Turbo spoiler'. That piece will cost at least 10 K painted in the original color.
I would not pay that money on sports seats or the spoiler, my car came with the spoiler.

Last edited by My993_4s_Dave; Jun 16, 2023 at 05:48 PM.

Jun 16, 2023 | 05:48 PM

#3113

Britzky9

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Speaking of sport seats...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...carrera-4s-16/

WP0AA2994WS320868
59k Miles
Arctic Silver Metallic Paint
Black Leather Upholstery
Power-Adjustable Sport Seats

IMO sport seats are the most underrated, and under valued, differentiator between cars.

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Jun 16, 2023 | 06:39 PM

#3114

Magdaddy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Britzky9

Speaking of sport seats...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...carrera-4s-16/

WP0AA2994WS320868
59k Miles
Arctic Silver Metallic Paint
Black Leather Upholstery
Power-Adjustable Sport Seats

IMO sport seats are the most underrated, and under valued, differentiator between cars.

and a close 2nd is rear seat delete…still on my wish list

Jun 16, 2023 | 06:39 PM

#3115

By-Tor

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Britzky9

IMO sport seats are the most underrated, and under valued, differentiator between cars.

I didn't know how rare they are when I bought my car.

Jun 17, 2023 | 02:04 AM

#3116

rsabeebe

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Quote:

Originally Posted by By-Tor

I didn't know how rare they are when I bought my car.

you have the early softbacks for the 993. very nice. very similar to the sport seats in a 964/RSA. terrific seats.

Jun 17, 2023 | 09:03 AM

#3117

Gbos1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rsabeebe

you have the early softbacks for the 993. very nice. very similar to the sport seats in a 964/RSA. terrific seats.

944s came with that seat option as well

Jun 19, 2023 | 11:26 PM

#3118

INTMD8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by My993_4s_Dave

I stated 'original Turbo spoiler'. That piece will cost at least 10 K painted in the original color.
I would not pay that money on sports seats or the spoiler, my car came with the spoiler.

Yes I get that. My car had an original turbo spoiler as well when I bought it. I sold it on bat and it hammered at $2,800

Jun 20, 2023 | 02:26 PM

#3119

rsabeebe

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Originally Posted by INTMD8

Yes I get that. My car had an original turbo spoiler as well when I bought it. I sold it on bat and it hammered at $2,800

i also have an OEM Turbo spoiler from my C4S. how long ago did you sell for that amount? the only 'Turbo spoiler' i could get to come up was a 930 tail.

Jun 20, 2023 | 02:56 PM

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INTMD8

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Not sure why it doesn't come up in a search on their site.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/po...cklid-spoiler/