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A 993 owner who loves the 993 would never sell it, but if he does it, he asks for the right price, but much more important he tries to sell to someone of his city or of his Porsche club, so that maybe he can see it again, and maybe even buy it back.
All the rest is folklore, people just investing their money, which in place of their heart have a deposit.
I respect their common "attitude", but these have never been the kind of people who change anything in the world, not even for themselves, and never will be.
the question is the rear quarter. there is some explanation about the paint, meter readings, and original seams, but no explanation of the cause. no deep readings on that quarter is a plus. i'm sure interested buyers have inquired. without that issue, i would have said (amazingly) $150k at the top end. i say amazingly because we're knocking on legit turbo numbers now. i'm going to say a similar $130-135k for this one, which is still a phenomenal number.
I have no idea how tarek is getting all these wide body cars, I follow on Instagram and met a few times at cars & coffee, this is mind boggling, I’ve counted 5 or 6 in the past month and he sells them all within a couple of hours of listing ! He just listed this 18k mile one, I’d have to mortgage the house now get a 993C4S
at the price the last two cars just sold for at auction with over double the miles I’d say one of the reasons Tarek sells his cars so fast is he prices below market, also of course his reputation goes a long way. This car he’s got now at $155,993 compared with recent sales I’d say is a bargain in today’s market.
how does he get so many 964 and wide body 993, tough to guess but I know he doesn’t do consignment so they are all cars he buys.
Have low mileage will sorted narrow body 993 Coupes risen in value also? These realized auction prices for WB's with 36k and 57k miles are almost double what sellers were getting for nice NB Coupes just last year, which frankly makes little sense.
Have low mileage will sorted narrow body 993 Coupes risen in value also? These realized auction prices for WB's with 36k and 57k miles are almost double what sellers were getting for nice NB Coupes just last year, which frankly makes little sense.
Little sense? Last of the Air Cooled WB cars?
NB 993 production C2 Coupe World Wide is 38,626 cars with 6,949 to the US. C2S are the Highest produced of the 993 and most common. Visually compare a WB next to a NB.
C2 Coupe to US 6,949
C2 Cab to US 8,203
C2 Targa to US 1,173
C4 Coupe to US 951
C4 Cab to US 601
Now to the Wide Body cars C4S and C2S:
C4S production World Wide was 6,948 and only 2,327 cars made it to the US
C2S production World Wide was only 3,714 and only 1,752 cars made it to the US.
Production was low with 24 years time has passed now. Many Cars have been wrecked, bastardized, high mileage etc.... Excellent low mileage, good maintenance records, good caretaker cars will Always remain highly desirable and command the highest premium. C4S was based off the Turbo (shared many components except the engine and frankly feel these cars are much more special) and C2S was basically a C2 with a Turbo wide body shell. These cars are still undervalued and prices will continue to rise. Not really a surprise as to why the WB cars are commanding a premium. Been saying this for years now. People are finally taking notice and appreciation. Current auction prices are reflecting this. I don’t see this slowing down and if it does like the past it will level off then go up not down.
Owners, dealers, sellers, auctions feed the self-serving WB bubble. Be patient. Wait for the blow-off buying opportunity that follows when reality sets in. Happened with 993 turbos, long hood 911s and others before.
Owners, dealers, sellers, auctions feed the self-serving WB bubble. Be patient. Wait for the blow-off buying opportunity that follows when reality sets in. Happened with 993 turbos, long hood 911s and others before.
C4S was based off the Turbo (shared many components except the engine and frankly feel these cars are much more special) and C2S was basically a C2 with a Turbo wide body shell.
Not wanting to turn this into a C4S vs. C2S debate because, at the end of the day, a WB is a win, but I disagree on this statement. The C4S and C2S cars are commanding prices that are now Turbo territory (and some exceeding) because, firstly, people want these specific models for the WB form but that's as analog and simple as possible.
I would say the C2S is the Purest package for that form, and gets away from the Turbo complexities, hydraulic brake accumulator, and AWD... with the benefit of having unique traits like the Split Grill, Grey Gauge Rings, and the Lowest Production Numbers. Otherwise, with the comparable prices these days, you could also validate just buying a Turbo vs. a C4S. Something also can be said of the number of C4S owners that actually will remove their front diff to pseudo-convert to RWD, not to mention the slight premium and more pronounced demand of a C2S vs C4S in sales.
Last edited by Ericsworld; 04-17-2021 at 01:43 AM.
From reading your replies and sentiments in this thread, it honestly just sounds like you're mad or feel snubbed that you sold your 993 at a "reversion" and now can't stomach the new reality
I haven't been following Turbo pricing.. But wouldn't it be safe to presume that Turbo's are inflating in value at a similar pace to their NA brethren?
I haven't been following Turbo pricing.. But wouldn't it be safe to presume that Turbo's are inflating in value at a similar pace to their NA brethren?
No. They are coming down. Here is the Hagerty 3-year trend for 1997 turbo, for condition 1 to 4 cars.
04-16-2021, 10:09 AM
