AlfaM5

No matter how much tech or power a car has, it's really hard to overcome the effects of weight. Agree that general public doesn't care - doesn't perceive/understand is a more accurate description. I feel once you get past the ~3200-3300 pound mark, handling/steering change a lot.

VarTheVar

If you can feel differences in handling and steering through all the tricks the manufacturers are doing, you are in the 1% or less of drivers. i.e., it really doesn't matter in the real world. Unfortunately. Most people will only see the consequences as worse fuel mileage and if you're unlucky enough to have a 600hp 5000lb EV you can tell because your tires disappear mighty quick

R N M

Ye but its also $65k for a very fast capable car that has useable rear seats and trunk. Plus it also offers a manual.

I wish BMW still offered DCT instead of the auto.

The #1 turnoff is the computer monitor dash which has no place in sports car.

VarTheVar

Case in point. Car enthusiasts don't even care. It's a good deal after all. 65k for 500hp or whatever it is. Nevermind that the ND Miata is a better sports car

BTW the ZF 8 speed is plenty adequate and in fact better than the Porsche automatic everywhere except the racetrack

RatherJaded

I have a family member that had one with a manual and was not overly impressed. The vehicle is now gone and a 992 is set to replace it.

Totally agree re the DCT vs ZF 8 speed auto as well as iDrive 8 - on. It is a horrible design, aesthetically.

Ikone

I'm not a BMW guy. I prefer Audi and went with the RS3 as a daily. That thing is a beast. 5 cylinder, DCT and AWD. Interior is a bit cheap for the price, but that's all in the performance and engine.

pitt911

interesting, I just picked up an RS3 as a second daily driver
I love the little thing . It is just fun which you can't say anymore about a lot of cars
it is nimble , feels light
agree interior is a little cheap

Ikone

I'm actually about to trade my Turbo Blue one in for a Glacier White. I bought the turbo blue which was offered to me by the dealer so had no color choice. After two years of driving it, I realized this thing is a keeper and I'd rather have it in a color I would prefer. Fun fact, Turbo Blue is Shark Blue. My Porsche SA told me he picked up touch up paint for Shark Blue and apparently it was the same for Turbo Blue.

chance6

That tach is an abomination. Why couldn't they improve the fonts to be more traditional to 911s of years/decades past? Why not include different customizable options on appearance of past 911 tachometers? Major miss with the font on this, along with everything else. Had to just be cost savings with Cayenne. Pathetic.

RatherJaded

And… Shark Blue is/was VW Cornflower Blue. They share the same paint code, D5C.

pitt911

I had white on order arriving the end of the month. SA called me that they have Kayalami Green someone backed off, That was 10 days ago. I went saw it in person and picked it up .
my son is picking up the Glacier white that I ordered

Timeless992

Are you paying for it or your son is?

pitt911

my son

dg108

Stage 1+ tune on that 2.5 makes it a beast.

3rdpedal

Apparently they just updated the configurator. You can now get deviated stitching in black. But it is only available on black interiors.