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Old 06-05-2024, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by iso87
Wonder if they would drop the AWD Turbo and only leave it for the Turbo S to differentiate Turbo from Turbo S significantly. Now they are a very similar offering imo.
Agree…..and I think that is why they are doing it…..to better differentiate the current similar models between two different markets to boost sales on high priced TT. TT is lightweight enthusiasts model with RWD with MT v. TTS is high end GT model with AWD and PDK only. Porsche marketing: if you want a MT we will make you pay for it. My only concern is this new TT/RWD/MT model makes a future Carrera T less likely (which is unfortunate) as Porsche marketing will argue that the T will cut into the sales and profit margin on the TT/RWD/MT model selling for $50-60k more. Hope I am wrong about that and T is available with MT too.

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Old 06-05-2024, 02:08 PM
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yeah more differentiation between turbo and turbo S seems to make sense. It'll be interesting to see this play out. If I ever get sick of my current targa and the only 911 with a manual and a drop top is a turbo I guess I've become a target Turbo customer...

I think it would be sad to see the targa and cabs not available with a manual. Those cars already compromise a bit of performance for pure enjoyment so to me those are the ones that should be offering manual. Those buyers aren't the ones trying to squeeze every last drop of performance.
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Old 06-05-2024, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by slc4s
I think it would be sad to see the targa and cabs not available with a manual. Those cars already compromise a bit of performance for pure enjoyment so to me those are the ones that should be offering manual. Those buyers aren't the ones trying to squeeze every last drop of performance.
This exactly.
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Old 06-05-2024, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by yrralis1
Gt3, Carrera T , and Base Turbo will all offer a manual in 2026 , Base Turbo will be RWD .
Again .. not. confirmed but the whispers of those who have been spot on about 80 percent of the time .

Manual guys ,, have no worries ... it might be happening for you .
I am only about the facts - I like both a manul and a PDK car

it is now more than double confirmed, the info for the GT3 and Turbo is certain - manual is available

Carrera S is 100% a hybrid. No manual

No info about the T
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Old 06-05-2024, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by silversurfer6
I am only about the facts - I like both a manul and a PDK car

it is now more than double confirmed, the info for the GT3 and Turbo is certain - manual is available

Carrera S is 100% a hybrid. No manual

No info about the T
Appreciate your insight! It was spot on!
Old 06-05-2024, 05:54 PM
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Glad this thread is getting back to speculation (which is fun) instead of the manual vs pdk in rush hour. I read the entire post, is anyone speculating on when the next announcement will be?
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Old 06-05-2024, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 911Castle
Glad this thread is getting back to speculation (which is fun) instead of the manual vs pdk in rush hour. I read the entire post, is anyone speculating on when the next announcement will be?
Turbos will come after the S and GT3 announcement but should be close. As above this is estimated first Q1 of 2025.
Old 06-05-2024, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by silversurfer6
I am only about the facts - I like both a manul and a PDK car

it is now more than double confirmed, the info for the GT3 and Turbo is certain - manual is available

Carrera S is 100% a hybrid. No manual

No info about the T
So will the Turbo get the GT3 6 speed and is there any chance of a turbo Targa? Probably doesn’t matter for me since it would probably push towards $300k and be beyond my reach even if I could get an allocation. But asking for a friend.
Old 06-05-2024, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Keadog
So will the Turbo get the GT3 6 speed and is there any chance of a turbo Targa? Probably doesn’t matter for me since it would probably push towards $300k and be beyond my reach even if I could get an allocation. But asking for a friend.
Since the sports classic did not get GT 6 speed transmission, I don't see why Porsche would spend time and money beef up the 6 speed and pair it with a turbo engine now.
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Old 06-05-2024, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronaldo
The 992.1 will instantly lose its freshness when 992.2 are on the street. Same thing happened when Cayenne 2024 was introduced and people started complaining about everything but look at it now, would anyone still want to buy an older model with a comparable price?
Interior colors leave a lot to be desired on those Cayennes. I'll keep mine.
Old 06-06-2024, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Keadog
So will the Turbo get the GT3 6 speed and is there any chance of a turbo Targa? Probably doesn’t matter for me since it would probably push towards $300k and be beyond my reach even if I could get an allocation. But asking for a friend.

I really doubt the 6 speed is up to the torque holding capacity the Turbo needs
Old 06-06-2024, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by VarTheVar
I really doubt the 6 speed is up to the torque holding capacity the Turbo needs
Could be as I have no info on the 6 speed. But the RWD and MT are allegedly slotted for the TT, not the TTS. Porsche specs a different HP and torque for the two Turbo models. Although Porsche has never made any statement one way or the other, M Engineering is of the opinion that the 992.1, factory, 7 speed MT OEM dry clutch system is good to a torque of 660 ft. Lbs. I sent M Engineering an e mail asking that exact question a few months back and that was their reply. I think that is well within the torque level of the TT.
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Originally Posted by Fullyield
Could be as I have no info on the 6 speed. But the RWD and MT are allegedly slotted for the TT, not the TTS. Porsche specs a different HP and torque for the two Turbo models. Although Porsche has never made any statement one way or the other, M Engineering is of the opinion that the 992.1, factory, 7 speed MT OEM dry clutch system is good to a torque of 660 ft. Lbs. I sent M Engineering an e mail asking that exact question a few months back and that was their reply. I think that is well within the torque level of the TT.
That's why Porsche uses the 6 speed only on naturally aspirated cars with very low torque. And that's probably why the 6 speed feels so nice. It has lighter components.
The 7 speed is what Porsche used on the Sport Classic which is basically what a RWD Turbo is. So it would stand to reason that the 7 speed would go in that car if it were to exist
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Old 06-06-2024, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by silversurfer6
I am only about the facts - I like both a manul and a PDK car

it is now more than double confirmed, the info for the GT3 and Turbo is certain - manual is available

Carrera S is 100% a hybrid. No manual

No info about the T
T will come within a year. Manual also. Per sources close to this
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Old 06-06-2024, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaye Bass
Don't be purposefully obtuse. Manuals are a giant pain in the *** in heavy bumper to bumper traffic.
why?


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