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Old 06-01-2024, 06:56 AM
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The connection drivers feel with an analog tach , the turning of a key, a manual transmission the sound of an engine is not related to age or nostalgia. The connection is human and connection inspires people of any age no matter how modern times have changed. .

When artists write songs most are still being written in guitars , pianos, drums that have not changed in centuries, even if iPads and computers are available that make the same sounds. No matter the genre you can go to any teen pop concert today and musicians are still playing those same instruments Mozart played.

when painters and designers work they do so with a pencil and physical paint like they did centuries ago to, not everything is done in an iPad.

if you look at driving as an art form (it is) it’s the exact same thing.

I think car manufacturers are getting it wrong by digitizing something that does not need to just because some focus group told them that’s what the new generation wants. Tesla gets away with it because it’s a new type of instrument. But to try change old instrument designs and digitize them for progress is wrong and removes the magic older people and younger people feel in a 911



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Interesting perspective!!!
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I'd argue that Tesla isn't getting away with it given their plummeting sales and inventory piling up.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/actual...ng-just-teslas

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Originally Posted by Porsche992
The connection drivers feel with an analog tach , the turning of a key, a manual transmission the sound of an engine is not related to age or nostalgia. The connection is human and connection inspires people of any age no matter how modern times have changed. .

When artists write songs most are still being written in guitars , pianos, drums that have not changed in centuries, even if iPads and computers are available that make the same sounds. No matter the genre you can go to any teen pop concert today and musicians are still playing those same instruments Mozart played.

when painters and designers work they do so with a pencil and physical paint like they did centuries ago to, not everything is done in an iPad.

if you look at driving as an art form (it is) it’s the exact same thing.

I think car manufacturers are getting it wrong by digitizing something that does not need to just because some focus group told them that’s what the new generation wants. Tesla gets away with it because it’s a new type of instrument. But to try change old instrument designs and digitize them for progress is wrong and removes the magic older people and younger people feel in a 911
that is only applicable to a very tiny group of people
most people consider it a hassle and if given the choice they would rather not drive at all .
and car companies cater to the masses like any other business
if you are a restaurant owner and make a dish that only 1 % of customer order . It can be the greatest dish you make. You take it off the menu
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It’s about designing in flexibility and saving money. I don’t like it either or the disappearance of hydraulic steering …..
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Originally Posted by detansinn
I'd argue that Tesla isn't getting away with it given their plummeting sales and inventory piling up.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/actual...ng-just-teslas
Exactly.
Lets call a spade a spade here while we are at it. EV sales are poor, the majority of car buyers do NOT want them and the EV industry is struggling badly.
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Originally Posted by Hunky
Exactly.
Lets call a spade a spade here while we are at it. EV sales are poor, the majority of car buyers do NOT want them and the EV industry is struggling badly.
Indeed.
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Taylor Swift not rockin a harpsichord last time I checked, but I get your point.
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Originally Posted by Hunky
Exactly.
Lets call a spade a spade here while we are at it. EV sales are poor, the majority of car buyers do NOT want them and the EV industry is struggling badly.
If I wanted an EV 911, I would just buy a Taycan. Hopefully Porsche understands they don't need an EV 911
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I'd argue Porsche didn't get it wrong because they knew exactly what they were doing. I doubt focus groups (owners) explained they wouldn't want any of those things.

All it is is PAG trimming costs. Plain and simple.
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Originally Posted by silverscooby27
Taylor Swift not rockin a harpsichord last time I checked, but I get your point.
she plays an acoustic guitar just like they did 100 years ago
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Originally Posted by detansinn
I'd argue that Tesla isn't getting away with it given their plummeting sales and inventory piling up.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/actual...ng-just-teslas
Tesla has the best selling car in the world the Model Y that is self driving and fully digital. It works for them. The 911 is far from that and should stay that way is what I’m trying to say. The big digital screen became popular when Tesla demonstrated consumer loved if since 2012. The Cayenne can follow that concept , the 911 SHOULD NOT. Yamaha makes both acoustic and electric pianos
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Originally Posted by Porsche992
she plays an acoustic guitar just like they did 100 years ago
for one song out of 30
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Originally Posted by Hunky
Exactly.
Lets call a spade a spade here while we are at it. EV sales are poor, the majority of car buyers do NOT want them and the EV industry is struggling badly.
That is also because those who wanted an EV have bought them already and most every one else will only buy them when they have no other choice. The same will go for Hybrids
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Originally Posted by silverscooby27
for one song out of 30
she plays an acoustic piano and an acoustic guitar on most her songs. The drummer also uses a drum set with skins like they did 1000 years ago. It’s the equivalent of using an air cooled 911 with a cassette player instead of one that is hybrid given the chance. Just accept my point 🤦🏻‍♂️
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