detansinn

IMHO, if you're buying a 992 Carrera T with a PDK, you're doing it wrong. With the 992.1 generation, the T exists so that you can get a manual transmission with the Base engine -- and almost all of the weight savings come from that manual gearbox. Sure, you get access to some options not available on the Base car, but with a PDK T, you're getting precious little included that's worth the $10,500 upcharge over a Base Carrera.

Unfortunately, the reality is that most of the 992 Carrera T's that I have seen in the wild are PDK and optioned up, ie. not enthusiast spec minimalism. I don't get it. The manual take rate for the 992.1 generation is so low that I can understand Porsche's confidence in dropping the 3 pedal option altogether with 992.2.

Bxstr

This. I had a PDK C2S for a year. After about a month, maybe less, I was bored with the transmission. It was just too easy to drive for me. However, PDK is an amazing transmission and I would enjoy owning one if I was driving in traffic or on track. For how I drive, which is on backroads, the extra engagement of a manual is something I enjoy.

Fullyield

Agree. Don’t understand ordering a high spec or PDK “T’s” either. I think what is driving the MT phase out is shift to hybrid technology. The mild hybrid motor is built into the PDK and, unlike the MT, the system needs computers and sensors (Nannie’s) to work.

737gdog

This, why I ditched my 2014 I owned for one year with pdk for a ‘19T manual.

Drew46

Vanilla is definitely better than chocolate. Nobody would ever pay more for chocolate over vanilla. I mean, chocolate might taste okay for the first scoop but by the second scoop, it just sucks because vanilla is better.

Its a subjective topic folks.

Jim986

It’s already been stated multiple times just in this thread!

Jim986

yes I hate that also. The selector in the 991 looks like a real shift **** and you can use it to shift the gears, which is a real plus for me since coming from years of manual transmission it feels very natural.

shrimp money

I have these, but when we did the group buy on here, it was a great savings. They offer more adjustability than the fixed, OEM 3RS magnetic shifters.

I think the OEM ones are $300 more.

Dream in PTS

So true. And hilarious to imagine.

Tobeit

I would agree that the manual on base is the main attraction (and most obvious) here but would love a base PDK with the other standard options it comes with like LSD etc. The weight savings argument is more of a marketing pitch as it can be negated with just a few options to click.

detansinn

If you're planning on holding onto your new 911 for a long time, the three pedal 7-speed manual transmission is a considerably more reliable long term play. If you spend time in the 991 and 997 forums, you'll see sensor issues and related PDK problems leaving folks in a bad place. Understand that Porsche dealers do not repair PDK transmissions -- they replace them and most indies won't even touch them. There are a couple of vendors out there now doing rebuilds of the 7 speed PDK, but you'll have to get the transmission to them. None of this is cheap. If your failure is something more catastrophic, you may find yourself down the replacement route anyway.

If you'll be in/out of your PDK 911 during the warranty or CPO period, this is no great shakes, but if you are planning to hold onto it a bit longer, it is a consideration.

Tobeit

interesting take. Never heard of more trouble in PDK than the MT in this generation of trannies. What are the cost difference between a MT and PDL anyway? This generation MT is probably also not as simple as your good old tranny from 20years ago.

Vicbastige

Is there data to support this or is this anecdotal?

masmole

But if I remember correctly, the current 7-speed manual is actually based on the old 7-speed PDK transmission, and just adapted through no small feat of over-engineering to a more traditional H-pattern of shifting. So wouldn't that place the 7-speed manual in the same boat as far as being equally a potential pain to maintain in the long term?

Fullyield

Read the hundred plus page “Repairing the PDK Transmission” sticky thread full of data and car after car experiencing PDK distance sensor failure. Ask “Sand Wedge”. That poor guy had it happen twice in his original PDK and then agin in his replacement PDK.