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Old 04-18-2024, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by M3Inline6
That will turn off all of the service interval nonsense?
What will? Disabling PVTS? No, PVTS is Porsche Vehicle Tracking System.

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Old 04-18-2024, 12:27 AM
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@Mike818 on page 24, Services at a glance it mentions "Depending on the component selected the following functions are available:
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- Reset component
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so it depends on the component selected whether it will reset THAT specific item. But as I said, when you get your car see if that does it for you and report back. As I mentioned it could be that for 2024 things have changed, but for those of us with older 992s it does not work

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Old 04-18-2024, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by siberian
@Mike818 on page 24, Services at a glance it mentions "Depending on the component selected the following functions are available:
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- Reset component
....
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so it depends on the component selected whether it will reset THAT specific item. But as I said, when you get your car see if that does it for you and report back. As I mentioned it could be that for 2024 things have changed, but for those of us with older 992s it does not work

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The manual I posted does say "from 2021", but yes of course I do plan on doing all this on my own car.

Do you have PCSS access? Go check out "170117 Oil drain and Fill", it will point you to "034025 Resetting Smart Service values". You will see that procedure is what I summarized earlier and it lists out all the jobs that can be updated through Smart Service.
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I don't have Porsche Connect or whatever it's called now. I do so much that's way above and beyond what Porsche Connect charges you for that I don't need it. Keep us posted

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Originally Posted by Mike818
Sure I attached the manual for you. I think it's a newer version than the one I posted about earlier as well.
Well, that kind of explains it.
The attached *.pdf file here is the Porsche Connect Manual I received with my 2021 C2S. It makes no mention of a "Smart Service." I suspect that this functionality is absent on the 2021 and prior 992's with PCM V5.0. It looks like PCM V6.0 is required. Not something that can be retrofitted, unfortunately.
I've also attached a screen shot of the "Version Information" on my C2S as provided by the PCM. FWIW, this is the most recent update available from Porsche for this car.
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Originally Posted by RRich
Under Smart Service I found the following options on my 2022 C2S. Looks like services can be reset via PCM. I haven't reached the first official oil change so I haven’t actually tried to reset.




In that thread, there posts from owners who've tried this on their 992 that they actually have in their garage.
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Originally Posted by Bluehighways
Well, that kind of explains it.
The attached *.pdf file here is the Porsche Connect Manual I received with my 2021 C2S. It makes no mention of a "Smart Service." I suspect that this functionality is absent on the 2021 and prior 992's with PCM V5.0. It looks like PCM V6.0 is required. Not something that can be retrofitted, unfortunately.
I've also attached a screen shot of the "Version Information" on my C2S as provided by the PCM. FWIW, this is the most recent update available from Porsche for this car.
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Nice find, so something clearly changed in the last few years. Maybe it has something to do with the right to repair stuff, needing "special tools" to do basic maintenance was a common criticism. Seems Porsche still found a way to get their $$$ though with this subscription stuff.

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Siberian/Blue Highways +1. See my suggestion yesterday that someone needs to test this theory and, if successful, then do a write up for the benefit of the community. So, we need to recruit a volunteer who meets the following requirements:

1.) Has a 2023 or newer 992S with PCM 6 actually in his/her garage.
2.) Still has a current Porsche Connect account.
3.) Already owns or willing to buy the J2534 hardware necessary.
4.) Willing to try the proposed procedure AND willing to document the process for a sticky if successful.
5.) Willing to also do a cost comparison between the PIWIS clone and this new proposal for the benefit of the our community.

#1 and # 2 excludes many of us with earlier 992’s, however. Mike has stated in a prior post he does not want to document or do a write up. This has been discussed ad nauseum. Time for practical application. Benjamin Franklin discussed the theory of electricity in the 1770s but the electric motor was not invented for another 60 years.

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Originally Posted by Bluehighways
Well, that kind of explains it.
The attached *.pdf file here is the Porsche Connect Manual I received with my 2021 C2S. It makes no mention of a "Smart Service." I suspect that this functionality is absent on the 2021 and prior 992's with PCM V5.0. It looks like PCM V6.0 is required. [b\Not something that can be retrofitted, unfortunately[/b].
I've also attached a screen shot of the "Version Information" on my C2S as provided by the PCM. FWIW, this is the most recent update available from Porsche for this car.
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You might be right. My ‘22 originally came with PCM V5.0 and the dealership retrofitted PCM V6.0 early last year.
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Originally Posted by M3Inline6
You might be right. My ‘22 originally came with PCM V5.0 and the dealership retrofitted PCM V6.0 early last year.
What? That's a new one, didn't even realize that was possible. Was that a warranty thing, or out of your own pocket?
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Originally Posted by Fullyield
Siberian/Blue Highways +1. See my suggestion yesterday that someone needs to test this theory and, if successful, then do a write up for the benefit of the community. So, we need to recruit a volunteer who meets the following requirements:

1.) Has a 2023 or newer 992S with PCM 6 actually in his/her garage.
2.) Still has a current Porsche Connect account.
3.) Already owns or willing to buy the J2534 hardware necessary.
4.) Willing to try the proposed procedure AND willing to document the process for a sticky if successful.
5.) Willing to also do a cost comparison between the PIWIS clone and this new proposal for the benefit of the our community.

#1 and # 2 excludes many of us with earlier 992’s, however. Mike has stated in a prior post he does not want to document or do a write up. This has been discussed ad nauseam. Time for practical application. Benjamin Franklin discussed the theory of electricity in the 1770s but the electric motor was not invented for another 60 years.
Why do you need a J2534 unless you're using a virtual tester, which is not needed for oil changes etc.? PIWIS or Launch will do the job.

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Old 04-18-2024, 11:44 AM
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I'd be happy to do a write up using virtual tester. It was just resetting the service reminder that I was talking about not doing a write up (or other straight forward factory procedures). I've just been burned multiple times following internet how-to's that were lacking in critical information like which hardware is reusable or not or special handling instructions etc. For example Porsche has an entire document "2X00IN Precautionary measures when handling oxygen sensors", which isn't likely something you would see talked about in a internet DIY.

I have a tactrix openport 2.0 which is a J2534 device, many of you would be familiar with it as it's the same hardware M-tuner uses on this platform already. If it works I would be happy to put together a post about it. It's a relatively inexpensive device that I have used extensively for probably over a decade at this point on my other cars.

I think virtual tester will be the equivalent of PIWIS. Will it have all the same features etc, that's what I am hoping to find out.

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A write-up would be useful for folks, but again you do not need a virtual tester to perform an SRI...

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Originally Posted by siberian
A write-up would be useful for folks, but again you do not need a virtual tester to perform an SRI...

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Well yeah apparently for PCM 6.0 you don't need anything to do it? For the cars that need to have it cleared by a PIWIS or other OBD equipment though it should do the job. I believe Virtual tester is the functional equivalent to a PIWIS terminal. TBD

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Yes, but you need to buy the scanner and subscribe to the service. If you have PIWIS or Launch you don't need it.

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