C21ban

You have a similar RL moniker named @silversurfer6 and you were quoted as being the potential rumormonger on the upcoming release of the new 992.2 in error

Ikone

Hilarious. Y'all got the wrong guy in the lineup. Keyser Soze walked right out.

PSPorsche

I really like your comments about the aesthetics.

The ".1" cars are honed to perfection by the designers, and they religiously follow a very specific design philosophy.

With the ".2" cars, the designers are forced to make changes, but they are only allowed to change the plastic parts in the front and rear. They can not change or contour the sheet metal to flow into their new bumper designs. So they are very limited with what they can do.

To "refresh" the car for a ".2", the designers must abandon their original design philosophy.

For example the 992’s design philosophy was to highlight the horizontal. The wide black front grill, the single horizontal taillight, the "single element" on the rear bumper that incorporates the turbo outlets, the exhausts, and the license plate are all a part of this philosophy, and these elements tie into the wide horizontal layout of the dash in the interior of the car.

Everything was "coherent", as you said.

With the 992.2, this harmony is lost, for the sake of change. The purity of the design philosophy will be muddled.

For reference, see this clip (item #4 at 1:15) where Peter Varga, Director of Exterior Design, explains the rear bumper design of the 992.1.

jhardy

I think the key word he uses is "clean". The 992.1 is a cleaner look. The 992.2 looks more aggressive (with the caveat that the hybrid GTS presumably has the sport design so we really should compare standard design to standard design). Looks are subjective obviously but I personally prefer the 992.1; at the same time I understand why some may prefer the 992.2 (less "bulbous" rear, more sculpted, even the engine cover looks more aggressive vs. cleaner on the 992.1). Looking forward to endlessly debating the merits of the two models as 95% of normal people won't be able to tell the difference side by side lol.

bobert75

You're assuming they didn't have the 992.2 design changes planned since the beginning of the 992 generation. While I can't be certain, I suspect they did. I doubt they just throw the designers to the wolves when it comes to planning ".2" design changes.

At any rate, fun thread the past couple days. Hope the manuals don't disappear as quickly as anticipated, otherwise I'll be keeping my '23 Carrera T until one of us drops dead (likely me) - only thing wrong with it is it isn't painted dark green.

Drifting

Agree with your closing statement.

Instead of a new 992 RS I’d chose a used Ferrari F8 Tributo.

instead of a new 992.2 carrera model I’d choose a used Roma or similar.

bz_911

Went in yesterday to see my SA to see what all he’s heard on the. .2 front and he was not in the store. He calls me back and they are at training in Orlando. He confirmed pretty much everything from a high level perspective including the one thing I was most interested in - the manual RWD Turbo. They are willing to put me on the list but not until I take delivery of my T first (it’s on a boat from Germany as we speak) as this is the first car I’ve bought from them. They are expecting crazy demand for it as the speculation is it will be a special edition of some sort and will be the “gem” of the .2 releases initially.

BZ

6sigma

That would mean there is essentially no more manual Carrera. The manual Turbo 930 throwback will be unobtanium. Manual GT3 or special GT cars might still be a thing, but again big bucks and no allocations for the peasants. That's a big reason why I got a manual T (also on the Supreme Ace in the Atlantic right now). We will see soon enough, but it doesn't look good for manual Carrera fans. I hope I'm wrong.

shrimp money

There will be a manual Carrera, but in true Porsche fashion, will be in a trim level or configuration the masses do not want, which will force you to step up, aka pay more for the trim you want, in a configuration you can get.

Porsche992

it’s true the only reason I got an S is because the base didn’t come with a manual. They made me pay up as I don’t need the bigger engine

FirstPorscheGT3

silversurfer6

@bz_911 Good info, thank you for confirming. Has he given any estimated dates for the turbo? Or any other smaller additional details revealed for any 992.2 model?

Gian6

Here are the last uncamouflaged pic:
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2...8-233834.html#
Do you like it?

MCG911

I guess build less and charge more is the Porsche approach. Should push up the used market.

Dream in PTS

That's one reason I traded my S when the T came out. I preferred the the 7MT with the base engine and smaller turbos and the T was a smart package. Some people got a T or an S because you could not get a base 7MT. And then you have many people who got a GTS because they couldn't get (or couldn't afford) a GT3. All of this drives demand for the mid-range 911's up.