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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Carolina1
update on that GTS, I found out that not only did it sell it had 3 people fighting over it. The owner (not the dealer) walked away with 100K in his pocket after giving the dealer their cut. The car was on consignment

Didn't you correct yourself in a previous post that this was actually a GT3 and not a GTS?
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 356Fan3
So true, sometimes wonder if I really need it; until I drive it and recognize what an amazing vehicle it really is.
if anyone thinks they “need” a 911, their values are misplaced. We all want to spend insane amounts of money for a luxury good that has an agreeable growl when you step on the gas.
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Drew46
That's great and you, like everyone else, get to vote with your wallet. But if a GTS with a $100K ADM sells, then it is not absurd, it is - by definition - the market clearing price. I.e. other people voting with their wallet. And just because something is listed with a $100K ADM, it doesn't mean it sells for that. you have defined the "chance6 market value" - somewhat arbitrarily I might add - at the max discount you have ever received. But that does not define the greater market. Everyone else voting with their wallet does.
chance6 MV you got it. This MV is actually the most realistic and reasonable. Exceed that MV and you’re on your own.

$100k ADM on a GTS IS a complete reaming.
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TN_3
Didn't you correct yourself in a previous post that this was actually a GT3 and not a GTS?
I’m not surprised.
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gellie
I've seen this movie in the 90's with F cars. Not a happy ending.
I bet it doesn't have a happy ending to most, that doesn't mean it will stop happening today/tomorrow or next week. I'm a GT car rookie, so the ADM I paid I considered to be the price of admission, and global shortage circumstances played a role in my decision as well. That said, you can bet your bottom dollar I'm not paying cash ADM again when I order the next gen car, so I get the train of thought of most on this thread, but to think that you're going to get a specialty car at zero ADM or at a discount from msrp in today's day and age is just not realistic unless you have a long standing relationship with your dealer, prior non specialty car purchase or something interesting to offer on trade. That simple.
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TN_3
Didn't you correct yourself in a previous post that this was actually a GT3 and not a GTS?
Yes I did, this is the problem when you try to do too many things at once
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Carolina1
Yes I did, this is the problem when you try to do too many things at once

OK so is it a GTS or GT3 the owner that had it on consignment banked a cool Big Ben after dealer fees and cut?
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 07:03 PM
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New to the thread, trying to catch up.

Is the general consensus that all 992 variants are charging an ADM to order, or for something currently at the dealer (if that even exists)?

If i were to have a new C4S offered to me at MSRP, is that a good deal or are many people getting allocations at MSRP these days?

I am coming over from the 718 side where my 4RS has a hefty ADM, so it's all i currently know.
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mdiesel64
New to the thread, trying to catch up.

Is the general consensus that all 992 variants are charging an ADM to order, or for something currently at the dealer (if that even exists)?

If i were to have a new C4S offered to me at MSRP, is that a good deal or are many people getting allocations at MSRP these days?

I am coming over from the 718 side where my 4RS has a hefty ADM, so it's all i currently know.
If you are getting offered a 911 4S allocation at msrp take it right away. The days of discount are far removed. MSRP nowadays is considered a good deal.
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JAB12
I bet it doesn't have a happy ending to most, that doesn't mean it will stop happening today/tomorrow or next week. I'm a GT car rookie, so the ADM I paid I considered to be the price of admission, and global shortage circumstances played a role in my decision as well. That said, you can bet your bottom dollar I'm not paying cash ADM again when I order the next gen car, so I get the train of thought of most on this thread, but to think that you're going to get a specialty car at zero ADM or at a discount from msrp in today's day and age is just not realistic unless you have a long standing relationship with your dealer, prior non specialty car purchase or something interesting to offer on trade. That simple.
Well, if you’re comfortable paying $100k ADM only to see massive depreciation as the US economy goes into a massive slowdown/recession thats your business. I will not pay an ADM for a run of the mill 911.
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gellie
Well, if you’re comfortable paying $100k ADM only to see massive depreciation as the US economy goes into a massive slowdown/recession thats your business. I will not pay an ADM for a run of the mill 911.
There are no references to paying $100K ADM for run of the mill 911s on my post. I wouldn't pay it either.

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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 07:53 PM
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So $100K ADM for driving out of the dealer with whatever upgraded variant of a 911, whether GTS, Targa 50, GT3, GT3T etc. should not move anyone's eyebrows in this short supply/high demand and manufacturing delayed market.”

GTS? Run off the mill. IMO
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gellie
So $100K ADM for driving out of the dealer with whatever upgraded variant of a 911, whether GTS, Targa 50, GT3, GT3T etc. should not move anyone's eyebrows in this short supply/high demand and manufacturing delayed market.”

GTS? Run off the mill. IMO
I see. It's OK to disagree on this one. Going rate in my neck of the woods for a GTS is $50K over sticker. I wouldn't pay that either. My point is that based on what we have seen transpire in the last 2 years, none of us should be surprised at the ADM being asked/paid and the overall trading prices for these cars.
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JAB12
I see. It's OK to disagree on this one. Going rate in my neck of the woods for a GTS is $50K over sticker. I wouldn't pay that either. My point is that based on what we have seen transpire in the last 2 years, none of us should be surprised at the ADM being asked/paid and the overall trading prices for these cars.
Yes agree to disagree. BTW I can get a slot for a GTS +25K here in NJ. More than one dealer.
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 08:28 PM
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The topic of ADM is a dead horse at this point. I just dont understand peoples need to say they wont pay any ADM. The market is the market. If someone wants a specific car now that in todays market is selling at a premium, they pay that premium to drive that car today. If they dont want to or cant pay ADM, then they wait and watch/read about others' experiences. Maybe they wait half a year or maybe longer. Manufacturers are raising their prices, so in a couple years these cars will be around 10k above current base prices anyways.

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