AlterZgo

So, if I don’t have enough money to cover the risk of tuning when car is in warranty, why would this be different after the warranty expires? Would I somehow become magically richer by that time?

Tobeit

Not busted but I lost any and all support from manufacturer for any problems. Threatening with Magnussen Act did nothing. It was not so much who pays for it (I would have, no issue) but they did not want to touch my car with a 10ft pole anymore. Sold the car as it was ridiculous and I got tired of it. Car was great, no issue with tune itself. Friend of mine did have a blown engine but he also added some larger PTG turbo's, not just tune. He had to rebuilt and took the opportunity to upgrade the internals to forged.

Fullyield

Well, you apparently have not read all of my posts. My order of mod install will slowly be exhaust, headers, sport cats and then tune……as my bank account does not allow me to do it all at once. That will be maybe one mod a year for me. So, just how is that not supporting the tune guys???? I should not be allowed to participate in a tune discussion because I do not have it NOW? I think most tuners recommend doing the tune last anyway so all mods and changes can be accounted for in the tune. But doing the tune last also helps mitigate the warranty issue which is one of many factors to be considered because I agree with you that “Not everyone has the same levels of concern” or finances. Maybe you should look at the names of who is doing the perceived bashing to whom and then adjust your comments accordingly. Unfortunately, I do not have the coin to do exhaust, headers, sport cats and tune all at once, but I am glad for those of you who do. But, this thread is not just for those who currently have a tune as you and others colloquially suggest. The original thread encourages debate and discussion on that topic and that debate should always be professional and respectful on this forum. I think numerous members have forgotten that and have made the mistake of initiating personal attacks when they disagree with an opinion…..which is unprofessional and unfortunate.

Fullyield

No….with limited funds my personal decision on how I want to spend MY money for MY car is exhaust, headers, sport cats then tune. I do not have the coin to do it all in one year. I think all the tuners suggest to do the other mods before the tune anyway, right? I did not realize this thread was exclusively only for those who currently have a tune as several on here suggest.

Tobeit

This is a pretty di..head answer. I am sure people who have to save up for a 911 enjoy and deserve it just as much as people who don't recognize it in their bank account. Maybe they even enjoy it more as they need to sacrifice more for it.

XrussianX

I’m not picking you indirectly, you were just the latest comment on how we should be worried. You do what you want and what you feel comfortable with. Just like I will. End of debate brother, and you clearly are not the guy who’s afraid to modify. Not having funds for mods is no reason to bash on a guy either. My main issue is people who don’t mod telling others how it’s a bad idea

Fullyield

No question my 992S is the nicest and most expensive car I have ever owned. The build was way north of $100k which is the cash flow issue this year as I paid cash. Now, Soul/Ak exhaust, Soul headers, Soul/Ak sport cats and then a tune is about an additional $12k-15k, at least, depending on DIY install v. labor costs…..in the same year……so it is not a decision lightly made ………in my household, at least. Easier for me for many reasons to spread it out and judge the change in exhaust sound from each added component before I add the next one. I am glad for you that you are so flush you can do all four at once. Bravo for you and I understand your bragging. But, the narrow-minded attitude that RL members are not allowed to discuss a tune in someone else’s thread (you are not the OP and did not post the question) unless you currently have a tune is quite arrogant, IMHO. It is equally arrogant to argue that you cannot discuss a tune unless you can immediately afford a tune. Again, everyone does not wear the same size shoe or have the same bank roll. Some responses on here are raising the perception that some owners are insecure about their decision to install a tune because they are so defensive about it. When everyone is thinking the same,no one is thinking.

AlterZgo

That's a legit response. I can respect that. I have never had any mfg take this approach with any of my tuned cars. Which mfg was this that froze you out on all warranty work? That really sucks and they shouldn't have done that, but it is as I've told people - dealers generally don't give a S about Magnussen Moss Act b/c you'd have to sue them to get any recourse... and there is little money to be made for cases like this so you won't get an atty to do it on contingency... and you won't spend out of pocket thousands of dollars on atty fees to get them to fix something that would cost less than the atty fees.

AlterZgo

LOL. This is me! I'm sure I get massively more pleasure out of driving and admiring my hard earned 992 S than Manny Khoshbin does his Hermes/LV/Birken whatever the F Bugatti Chiron Super Duper Deluxe... b/c he can buy 10 of those easily if he wanted to and I can only afford one lowly 992 S.

mattchow

I dont know that your car would take advantage of the added power of the headers, exhaust, and cats without the tune.

Tobeit

AMG. Went all the way to Germany HQ escalaring and all I asked was help with troubleshooting as dealer had no idea what to do. Even local tuner shops told me they would not be able to do much but fix by elimination ake start replacing parts starting with the cheapest/easiest to replace or take a guess and swing for the fences. Car was just 3 years, 36k miles, Had stage 2. I just got tired of it dealing with it. Was my daily driver and did not have time and patience for that. Had funny stories along the way though.

Fullyield

Good point! Should I do it in a different order?

breny4104

@mattchow probably knows more than I do but I'll give it a try... the cats and/or headers may necessitate a tune or you'll get CELs and it may not run right. You can do the slip-ons such as akropovic first without a tune and the stock tune can adjust. The cats and headers may need to be installed concurrent with the tune.

I can't speak for M-Engineering but I think they'll send you a new map without much hassle as you upgrade. So the order of things could be

1. Cat back exhaust
2. Tune
3. Enjoy
4. Headers and Cats

Fullyield

Thank you Sir!

XrussianX

Got my package from M-Engineering. Setup took 2hrs with waiting for the return email with the flash. No warning lights, everything works as it should. Easily extra 100hp felt thru *** dyno. The engine rips with quite a bit more aggression at the top. I love it, thanks Charles and the team for coming up with this. Did a launch with cold tires, 1.2g’s👌🏻 Incredible