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Old 10-19-2022, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 3rdpedal
Chalk is a gorgeous color and was my second choice but it is essentially a $6,500-$7,500 option as it really necessitates the Sport Design Front Fascia as well since it is a light color, and you'd do well to add the Side Skirts which adds another thousand.
Second choice would be Gentian Blue with the Painted Front Spoiler Lip, which adds up to $128,470 ($4,940 less). Definitely something to consider...


Is there a way to get 911 embroidered in the headrest without the Carrera T package? The package is too expensive for an embroidered logo and different seatbelts.

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I highly doubt the T has any gearing changes vs GTS or S. It likely retains the same final drive & gearing (3.55) as those two. For comparison, the previous T had a slightly shorter final drive @ 3.59.

There might be other minute changes in play but none can be eyeballed from the marketing materials.

My hope is that savagegeese's yt channel manages to get this car early & gets engineering support. I feel strongly that is our only hope.
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Old 10-19-2022, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 3rdpedal
Chalk is a gorgeous color and was my second choice but it is essentially a $6,500-$7,500 option as it really necessitates the Sport Design Front Fascia as well since it is a light color, and you'd do well to add the Side Skirts which adds another thousand.
I would do the GT3 Side Skirts later on instead for much cheaper: https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1264...ispreloading=1
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Old 10-19-2022, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Maboomba
Second choice would be Gentian Blue with the Painted Front Spoiler Lip, which adds up to $128,470 ($4,940 less). Definitely something to consider...
I have a Gentian Blue C2S. Great color. I sometimes wish I had gone for the more muted Chalk but the GB is a fantastic color and I am partial to blue.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Maboomba
Second choice would be Gentian Blue with the Painted Front Spoiler Lip, which adds up to $128,470 ($4,940 less). Definitely something to consider...


Is there a way to get 911 embroidered in the headrest without the Carrera T package? The package is too expensive for an embroidered logo and different seatbelts.
Gentian is beautiful. The Standard T interior includes 911 on the head rests embroidered in black. I only added the leather package for the leather dash.

Standard $0 interior includes this:

Included in Leather:
  • Seat bolsters (front)
  • Seat headrests with embroidered "911" logo in Black
  • Steering wheel rim
  • Door grab handles
  • Door panel armrests
  • Center console storage compartment lid
  • Gear lever and gear lever boot (manual transmission only)
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Originally Posted by 3rdpedal
I have a Gentian Blue C2S. Great color. I sometimes wish I had gone for the more muted Chalk but the GB is a fantastic color and I am partial to blue.
I have a San Marino Blue G80 M3 on order that this would replace, so I agree deep and royal blues are great colors.
Old 10-19-2022, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by balucipher
Gentian is beautiful. The Standard T interior includes 911 on the head rests embroidered in black. I only added the leather package for the leather dash.

Standard $0 interior includes this:

Included in Leather:
  • Seat bolsters (front)
  • Seat headrests with embroidered "911" logo in Black
  • Steering wheel rim
  • Door grab handles
  • Door panel armrests
  • Center console storage compartment lid
  • Gear lever and gear lever boot (manual transmission only)
Good point. But, I have been avoiding pre-owned Ts without the leather dash, so while my first impulse was to save on the interior, I think it's important to get the leather dash with stitching for me to feel like it's a $120K car.
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Old 10-19-2022, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Maboomba
Good point. But, I have been avoiding pre-owned Ts without the leather dash, so while my first impulse was to save on the interior, I think it's important to get the leather dash with stitching for me to feel like it's a $120K car.
I agree. It's a steep step up on the T to leather.

$4530 buys you the following:

Includes in Smooth-Finish Leather:
  • Front seats with Sport-Tex seat centers
  • Rear seats with Sport-Tex seat centers
  • Seat headrests with "911" logo embroidered in Black
  • Steering wheel rim
  • Steering wheel airbag module
  • Door panel armrests
  • Center console lid
  • Upper section of the dashboard
  • Lower section of the dashboard
  • Glove compartment
  • Center tunnel knee pads
  • Upper section of the door panels
  • Center section of the door panels
  • Rear side panels
Note: In conjunction with Full Bucket Seats, the seat centers will be finished in Black Race-Tex.
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Originally Posted by A Nonce
I am tending to agree. If you want/need a PDK I am not sure the T is the best car for that.

But thinking about this more deeply, if you want the cheapest 911 with PDK + PTV then you probably should get the T?! On the other hand jumping to the S does yield huge performance gains for PDK out of the box. You will pay a very hefty premium for that though!

If you were going PDK only, which trim would you actually purchase? Like with your own money!

Everyone on this forum says that everyone is going to be ordering their T in manual only. And yet, more than half of 991.2 used T's have the PDK! What gives?!
In the 991 you could buy a manual base C2 which removed a big reason to buy the T in the 1st place. That plus the 991 T didn’t sell as well as expected so dealers spec’d them, and dealers will generally spec PDK as it’s easier to sell.
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Old 10-19-2022, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by balucipher
Yeah, no base manual to compare it to. Until we get a detailed test of one, we have no idea if it uses the gearing out of the S or if they did something bespoke with it.
my gut tells me they’ll need to use a shorter final drive than the S/GTS get. Because the base engine doesn’t have anywhere near the same torque low down as the S/GTS which is really needed to carry the long gearing in those cars.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Maboomba
I have a San Marino Blue G80 M3 on order that this would replace, so I agree deep and royal blues are great colors.
If you sell a SMB G80 I'm buying. LOVE that color. What interior?
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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf
If you sell a SMB G80 I'm buying. LOVE that color. What interior?
It's on order, not in hand yet. The interior will be Silverstone Full Leather with M Carbon Buckets.
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If you order a T today, by the time you take delivery the facelifted 992.2 Carreras will have been released and your T will look dated as you drive it out the showroom.
Porsche need to concentrate on competently delivering the current product line they have.
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Originally Posted by Marcha
If you order a T today, by the time you take delivery the facelifted 992.2 Carreras will have been released and your T will look dated as you drive it out the showroom.
Porsche need to concentrate on competently delivering the current product line they have.
This has long been the case for 911's. Porsche was still selling 991 GT3 cars (.2 RS I think specifically) when the 992 was out. You could buy a 997 Turbo in 2013 when the 991 had been on sale for a year already. Hasn't seemed to stop them, or stopped people from buying it. And a generational change is WAY bigger than the change from a .1 to a .2. Hell, I just ordered a new Cayenne prior to the facelift because I don't like some of the things I seen in the spyshots for the upcoming car. Quite frankly, I don't see this as a big deal.

As for your other point, the T has almost certainly always been in the business plan for the 992. At it's heart, it's simply a re-configuring of existing options that are arbitrarily set by Porsche anyway. I mean, there's no reason they couldn't allow the base Carrera to have the MT, PASM and locking diff other than they didn't want the hierarchy to be upset. So how in any way does this break their concentration?


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