gohawks23

Not actually on vessel until the estimated date is changed to an actual date...

Muhney

It's changed. TYD says it's on the vessel.

dgasmd

Hey, be happy it is moving along. I got a notice that mine was completed and then at Emden several days after their own date says it was completed. Now, it has been sitting there for over a week, and I just got a picture. It still estimates delivery to dealer as Jan 1. Now, if the damn thing would just get on its way that’d be nice!

gohawks23

From your screen shot the red progress dot is not On Vessel and estimated date is 12/18...if actually on vessel the red dot would be there and it would have actual date. It looks like it's in progress because you have ship name but task isn't completed on TYD yet.

dgtarga

When mine when through the process back in mid-October TYD behaved the same way as Muhney's. The name of the vessel appeared on TYD right away when the vehicle was loaded on the ship, and then "estimated" to "actual" date didn't switch over until the vessel left Emden. Since the Viking Bravery is in port at Emden right now, I'd say Muhney's pretty safe in saying it's on the boat and should be en route within another day or so.

dgtarga

I don't subscribe to the conspiracy theories either, and cannot imagine this is anything but CARB delay for reasons we'll never know. My SA, SM, and GM have all opined that these repeated EPA/CARB delays that Porsche seems to endure with each new model and model year release are the result of past sins with Dieselgate. Others in the VW Group seem to be able to navigate this more efficiently, so this rationale seems a bit suspect. But perhaps Porsche negotiates more aggressively (to protect their sacred margins) or there's more to the story. No idea if this is true, but I have a hard time believing that the people at Porsche are so dumb that they cannot get their applications together and filed in a timely manner.

Regarding communication, it is extremely frustrating that no clear answer or guidance is available from PCNA. The parallel that I am familiar with is review by and negotiation with FDA. Public disclosure of process or issues by the "sponsor" is, let's say, "frowned upon." You are literally at the mercy of the reviewers and they do not appreciate being publicly criticized or blamed for delays, and they can and will make you pay for it. Again, just speculating and suspect we mere mortals will never know the whole story.

Muhney

That is the old screen shot that was updated before I posted the changes. It hasn't "officially" been loaded yet. But it has been moved up.

gymdent

Where on the TYD app is the pic of the car supposed to be? Am I correct in assuming that not everyone has one?

craig66

Wow that is amazing. I will be the first to admit that I do not know much about CARB but if it has been around since 1967 and cars that are EPA certified are for the most part CARB certified that brings about two possibilities.

1. CARB has been really beneficial and in order to meet CARB certification it has meant that manufacturers have had go over and above EPA Requirements and so the environment of NON CARB states is benefitting from the work CARB states are doing

or alternatively

2. EPA certification is more than adequate and that CARB has just added another level of complexity and bureaucracy. that is neither needed nor beneficial to us ir the environment

I am guessing it is the latter but as stated I know little about CARB and in my post turkey malaise I have little energy to dig deeper - EITHER WAY JUST RELEASE THE FRIGGIN CARS ALREADY !!!!!

craig66

Unfortunately incorrect - very hit or miss - some people get em and some don't.

Also remember that TYD is a backwards looking system and so when it states that a phase has been completed then it is complete and mostly accurate however the forward looking dates often remain very inaccurate

Babyray

I’m going with option #2

gohawks23

You are correct. Under 'My vehicles' click 'Discover current phase'...which should be 'Your vehicle has been produced' or later...mine has a pic of somebody else's car...or they REALLY changed what a C2S cab looks like!

Muhney

LOL, new style Cabriolet. I'm sure you are the first to own one.

fishskis

[QUOTE=dgtarga;17053511
Regarding communication, it is extremely frustrating that no clear answer or guidance is available from PCNA. The parallel that I am familiar with is review by and negotiation with FDA. Public disclosure of process or issues by the "sponsor" is, let's say, "frowned upon." You are literally at the mercy of the reviewers and they do not appreciate being publicly criticized or blamed for delays, and they can and will make you pay for it. Again, just speculating and suspect we mere mortals will never know the whole story.[/QUOTE]

This is exactly what I was thinking. These various governmental agencies have tremendous power; not doing something that might unnecessarily slow the process would be a good business decision by PCNA, even it means compromising communications with customers. This is the same choice I would make. The unhappiness and impatience of some customers might be unavoidable collateral damage, with minimal long term implications. Once we get our cars, the vast majority of us will forget about the delay. These cars we order are not an easily replaceable commodity; most of us order these cars because we want this somewhat unique product, and we will likely order variations on them over and over, regardless of periodic hiccups and delays.

dgtarga

"Take a first look at your .... 718 Cayman GT4 (???!)