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Old 12-01-2018, 10:45 PM
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So is 992 wider than 991.2 RS?
Old 12-01-2018, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by lucxy
So is 992 wider than 991.2 RS?
RS 74 inches
992 72.9

Old 12-02-2018, 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by abiazis
The future guess:

Next 2020 992 GT3 = basically the 2019 GT3 RS NA engine repeated and tweaked for nominal hp and torque gains.

Next 992 GT3RS - NA with hybrid to 650 hp - using 918 technology

Next GT2 RS = Turbo with more hp to 750 hp or maybe Turbo-hybrid to 800
I'm inclined to agree with this.

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Old 12-02-2018, 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Mrrdstr
Just got back from the LA auto show and the 992 looks fantastic in person. Well done Porsche
couldnt agree more!
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Originally Posted by Drifting


too each his own re subjective styling

However you’re clearly wrong about the 992.1 GT3 power reaching 550+. When has Porsche ever increased hp by 50 between GT3 generations?
Answer—-never.

And 50-100 lb weight increase is very noticeable in the wrong way to those who track and/or truly drive these cars. Hopefully the GT department can keep the weight increase less than those amounts for the GT cars.
Well 415 from 380 996/997 2005-2007 =9.2%

475 from 435 997.2/991 2010-2014 =9.2%,

So another 9.2% = 546

So I will go with 545 as my final answer!
Old 12-02-2018, 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Drifting


too each his own re subjective styling

However you’re clearly wrong about the 992.1 GT3 power reaching 550+. When has Porsche ever increased hp by 50 between GT3 generations?
Answer—-never.

And 50-100 lb weight increase is very noticeable in the wrong way to those who track and/or truly drive these cars. Hopefully the GT department can keep the weight increase less than those amounts for the GT cars.
If I was a betting man, I would bet you 550 or higher though! I will bet you one $1 sir. I pay via venmo lol next gt3 is 550 or more!
Old 12-02-2018, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by djcxxx
The .2 GT3/RS is a future classic based on the engine if nothing else.
Don't be so sure...if the 992 GT3 is N/A, it'll be a better powerplant for certain
Old 12-02-2018, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Maverick787
RS 74 inches
992 72.9
How do the track widths compare?

Originally Posted by motorwerksgroup
Don't be so sure...if the 992 GT3 is N/A, it'll be a better powerplant for certain
Yeah, I don't see why they'd put a worse engine in it. If NA, I expect it will be better. If hybrid or turbo, I bet it will still be better in some ways than the current NA. Porsche hasn't screwed up a GT3 yet, and I doubt they will with the 992.
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Originally Posted by rosenbergendo
So 992 is 50-75kg heavier than 991.2. This really puts AP in a bind to develop something special. Those wanting a lighter car without a carbon tub are in a fantasy world. And what about RS 992 which will almost surely be hybrid. It will be over 3700-3800 lbs. This really seems like a poor update not to mention that the interior is horrible!! Will be an interesting update cycle. Even with 530 hp 992 GT3 will need something else if it is plus 50-75kg to make any real performance gains.
Porsche keeps getting heavier and more expensive.

Mclaren is likely my next move. Carbon tub and they are getting lighter and less expensive with an overlap of a low optioned 570 and a highly optioned 992. In the past my biggest concern with mclaren is support. Another new dimension is Audi R8 with a Lamborghini NA V10. With the pricing overlap here Porsche really loses a lot of its position as an in between sports car. By that I mean it’s in between a mustang level and Ferrari/exotic level in terms of pricing. The overlap means more competition.
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Originally Posted by Manifold
How do the track widths compare?



Yeah, I don't see why they'd put a worse engine in it. If NA, I expect it will be better. If hybrid or turbo, I bet it will still be better in some ways than the current NA. Porsche hasn't screwed up a GT3 yet, and I doubt they will with the 992.
yeah, tell us more about why the 991.1 GT3 has a 120k mile warranty on the engine now? And subjectively not including a manual was a screw up too.
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Originally Posted by garfunkle

yeah, tell us more about why the 991.1 GT3 has a 120k mile warranty on the engine now? And subjectively not including a manual was a screw up too.
It's a great engine, but there was a specific defect, which Porsche has presumably fixed, and it's all backed by warranty, so it's all good.

I don't fault Porsche for not initially offering a manual. Don't forget that it wasn't offered in any of the three 991 RS models. The PDK-only GT cars have continued to sell very well. If the 992 GT3 is PDK only, some will cry, but they'll still sell them all. I have three manual Porsches, but I love the PDK in the GT3, and would pick PDK again.
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Originally Posted by welikethetrack
If I was a betting man, I would bet you 550 or higher though! I will bet you one $1 sir. I pay via venmo lol next gt3 is 550 or more!
LOL. sure.
Old 12-02-2018, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
i think i want one. Non GT. Perfect daily driver.
your porsche history is longer than my life.



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