Hate the 992??! OFFICIAL VENTING THREAD # Ultimate bashing allowed. Step in the ring.
11-29-2018, 02:37 PM
#451
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What's with all the 996 bashing going on here, I remember when the 996 came out and it didn't seem like it was half as hated as the 992.
Disclaimer: yes, I own a 03 996...and love it!
Disclaimer: yes, I own a 03 996...and love it!
11-29-2018, 02:38 PM
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Here's my complaint with it...its completely aimed at people who want a flashy car, and not sports car. All the changes they have made (apart from the potential for the hybrid) seem to be driven to looking good on the curb and at dinner. Compare it to the older Porsches and it just looks...weird I guess. Futuristic?
As a future new buyer, the 992 looks like a Panamera on the inside, and on the outside. It drives better, yes. But if I am going in for 100+k daily driver, I might as well just get the 2 extra seats and storage of the panemara, because the 992 doesn't seem to offer much over the Panny in the way of looks or interior.
If I want something thats a sports car, I might as well get a 718 or some other brand (or likely, a 991). But if I end up paying 100k+ for a Panamera sedan, well the whole world of sedans is now open...Tesla. Mercedes, BMW.
The whole point of the 911 was that it is a daily driver sports car. Now its seems to be going the way of "two door version of a sedan".
People are comparing this to the 996 bashing, which is true, but I personally never had a problem with the 996..I think it looks kinda good. I am glad they went back to the round headlights. Headlights never hold back a car as it ages..they just look a little bit like a blast from the past. Now, the rear end, that can make or break a car, and when it looks dated, it looks bad. The new porsche IMO has a terrible rear and interior. The 996 didn't have that problem,
As a future new buyer, the 992 looks like a Panamera on the inside, and on the outside. It drives better, yes. But if I am going in for 100+k daily driver, I might as well just get the 2 extra seats and storage of the panemara, because the 992 doesn't seem to offer much over the Panny in the way of looks or interior.
If I want something thats a sports car, I might as well get a 718 or some other brand (or likely, a 991). But if I end up paying 100k+ for a Panamera sedan, well the whole world of sedans is now open...Tesla. Mercedes, BMW.
The whole point of the 911 was that it is a daily driver sports car. Now its seems to be going the way of "two door version of a sedan".
People are comparing this to the 996 bashing, which is true, but I personally never had a problem with the 996..I think it looks kinda good. I am glad they went back to the round headlights. Headlights never hold back a car as it ages..they just look a little bit like a blast from the past. Now, the rear end, that can make or break a car, and when it looks dated, it looks bad. The new porsche IMO has a terrible rear and interior. The 996 didn't have that problem,
11-29-2018, 02:51 PM
#453
Here's my complaint with it...its completely aimed at people who want a flashy car, and not sports car. All the changes they have made (apart from the potential for the hybrid) seem to be driven to looking good on the curb and at dinner. Compare it to the older Porsches and it just looks...weird I guess. Futuristic?
As a future new buyer, the 992 looks like a Panamera on the inside, and on the outside. It drives better, yes. But if I am going in for 100+k daily driver, I might as well just get the 2 extra seats and storage of the panemara, because the 992 doesn't seem to offer much over the Panny in the way of looks or interior.
If I want something thats a sports car, I might as well get a 718 or some other brand (or likely, a 991). But if I end up paying 100k+ for a Panamera sedan, well the whole world of sedans is now open...Tesla. Mercedes, BMW.
The whole point of the 911 was that it is a daily driver sports car. Now its seems to be going the way of "two door version of a sedan".
People are comparing this to the 996 bashing, which is true, but I personally never had a problem with the 996..I think it looks kinda good. I am glad they went back to the round headlights. Headlights never hold back a car as it ages..they just look a little bit like a blast from the past. Now, the rear end, that can make or break a car, and when it looks dated, it looks bad. The new porsche IMO has a terrible rear and interior. The 996 didn't have that problem,
As a future new buyer, the 992 looks like a Panamera on the inside, and on the outside. It drives better, yes. But if I am going in for 100+k daily driver, I might as well just get the 2 extra seats and storage of the panemara, because the 992 doesn't seem to offer much over the Panny in the way of looks or interior.
If I want something thats a sports car, I might as well get a 718 or some other brand (or likely, a 991). But if I end up paying 100k+ for a Panamera sedan, well the whole world of sedans is now open...Tesla. Mercedes, BMW.
The whole point of the 911 was that it is a daily driver sports car. Now its seems to be going the way of "two door version of a sedan".
People are comparing this to the 996 bashing, which is true, but I personally never had a problem with the 996..I think it looks kinda good. I am glad they went back to the round headlights. Headlights never hold back a car as it ages..they just look a little bit like a blast from the past. Now, the rear end, that can make or break a car, and when it looks dated, it looks bad. The new porsche IMO has a terrible rear and interior. The 996 didn't have that problem,
Unfortunately they were in a desperate economic situation, and didn't spend enough time on testing or interior design.
11-29-2018, 03:01 PM
#454
Pro
Here's my complaint with it...its completely aimed at people who want a flashy car, and not sports car. All the changes they have made (apart from the potential for the hybrid) seem to be driven to looking good on the curb and at dinner. Compare it to the older Porsches and it just looks...weird I guess. Futuristic?
As a future new buyer, the 992 looks like a Panamera on the inside, and on the outside. It drives better, yes. But if I am going in for 100+k daily driver, I might as well just get the 2 extra seats and storage of the panemara, because the 992 doesn't seem to offer much over the Panny in the way of looks or interior.
If I want something thats a sports car, I might as well get a 718 or some other brand (or likely, a 991). But if I end up paying 100k+ for a Panamera sedan, well the whole world of sedans is now open...Tesla. Mercedes, BMW.
The whole point of the 911 was that it is a daily driver sports car. Now its seems to be going the way of "two door version of a sedan".
People are comparing this to the 996 bashing, which is true, but I personally never had a problem with the 996..I think it looks kinda good. I am glad they went back to the round headlights. Headlights never hold back a car as it ages..they just look a little bit like a blast from the past. Now, the rear end, that can make or break a car, and when it looks dated, it looks bad. The new porsche IMO has a terrible rear and interior. The 996 didn't have that problem,
As a future new buyer, the 992 looks like a Panamera on the inside, and on the outside. It drives better, yes. But if I am going in for 100+k daily driver, I might as well just get the 2 extra seats and storage of the panemara, because the 992 doesn't seem to offer much over the Panny in the way of looks or interior.
If I want something thats a sports car, I might as well get a 718 or some other brand (or likely, a 991). But if I end up paying 100k+ for a Panamera sedan, well the whole world of sedans is now open...Tesla. Mercedes, BMW.
The whole point of the 911 was that it is a daily driver sports car. Now its seems to be going the way of "two door version of a sedan".
People are comparing this to the 996 bashing, which is true, but I personally never had a problem with the 996..I think it looks kinda good. I am glad they went back to the round headlights. Headlights never hold back a car as it ages..they just look a little bit like a blast from the past. Now, the rear end, that can make or break a car, and when it looks dated, it looks bad. The new porsche IMO has a terrible rear and interior. The 996 didn't have that problem,
11-29-2018, 03:05 PM
#455
Three Wheelin'
11-29-2018, 03:36 PM
#456
Here's my complaint with it...its completely aimed at people who want a flashy car, and not sports car. All the changes they have made (apart from the potential for the hybrid) seem to be driven to looking good on the curb and at dinner. Compare it to the older Porsches and it just looks...weird I guess. Futuristic?
The whole point of the 911 was that it is a daily driver sports car. Now its seems to be going the way of "two door version of a sedan".
The whole point of the 911 was that it is a daily driver sports car. Now its seems to be going the way of "two door version of a sedan".
You nailed it.
11-29-2018, 03:39 PM
#457
Three Wheelin'
Agree, but I'm hoping for a 992.2 Carrera T that will fix some of the design issues as well as be more driver oriented. Keep hope alive!
11-29-2018, 04:03 PM
#458
Race Director
Thread Starter
How hilarious. Porsche touting carbon footprint while 70% of ALL cars they ever built are still on the road while ADDING 250,000 additional new cars worldwide PER YEAR!!!
Maybe sell cars and encourage buyers not to drive them?? Or trading carbon footprints by going electric. So hypocritical. All feel good fluff.
Maybe sell cars and encourage buyers not to drive them?? Or trading carbon footprints by going electric. So hypocritical. All feel good fluff.
11-29-2018, 04:14 PM
#459
11-29-2018, 04:15 PM
#460
Three Wheelin'
True.
I'm still hoping the 992.2 T will be much lighter weight and a better design.
I'm still hoping the 992.2 T will be much lighter weight and a better design.
11-29-2018, 04:15 PM
#461
Burning Brakes
I like it just as ive liked every new version over the previous (other than the switch to turbo motors). the british green and the weave interior are fantastic as are the swollen fenders. still not a fan of turbos but 400 ft lbs are pretty good. will be faster around a track and more comfortable driving it back and forth too. only issue is price. many will be listed around $150k which makes me want to spend little more and get a 570 or vantage.
11-29-2018, 04:18 PM
#462
Wait why did they make it heavier? I get that 991.2 had to be a little heavier for the turbos and intercoolers and stuff but this has roughly the same engine and supposedly more aluminum.
11-29-2018, 04:22 PM
#463
Race Director
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by bonn72
True.
I'm still hoping the 992.2 T will be much lighter weight and a better design.
I'm still hoping the 992.2 T will be much lighter weight and a better design.
Who are you kidding?? Lol. Think it will ever as lite as a 991.1??
11-29-2018, 04:24 PM
#464
Three Wheelin'
11-29-2018, 04:26 PM
#465
Three Wheelin'