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STG 10-18-2018 02:19 PM

Hate the PORSCHE 992??!! OFFICIAL VENTING THREAD # Ultimate bashing allowed.
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We can have the 2020 992 Spy Pics and new info thread to post new findings and civilized discussion.

Hate the new Porsche 992? Tell us how you really feel! Let it all out. No moderating and not for the sensitive types. It's got potential to get ugly here. No politically correct rules here. Start the punches, kicking, and nasty insults. NO HOLDS BARRED!

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Dan Nagy 10-18-2018 02:42 PM

Lol. You really did it.

(I don't belong here - just stopping by.)

slc4s 10-18-2018 03:04 PM

Yes! (caveat: i'm almost definitely a future 992 buyer)


Please just give me real buttons that I can feel for vs having to look down

The 992 center console is going to be a travesty. Cadillac tried to get away with this for nearly a decade with their goofy CUE system and everybody hated it there and will continue to hate it here.

Here is my current center console... see how easy all those buttons are to push? don't even have to look down to know what you are getting.

(rant over)

Porsche911GTS'16 10-18-2018 03:45 PM

If the nubbin is what many of us think it is and there will no longer be a gear shifter in the PDK car, the nubbin will go down as one of the worst modifications from one model generation to the next in the long history of the 911.

erik_plus8 10-18-2018 03:59 PM

The smooth dashboard flow of the 991 will be replaced by an angular abomination... Nonono...

Ascend 10-18-2018 04:26 PM

992 is the new 996.

subshooter 10-18-2018 06:32 PM


Rocket_boy 10-18-2018 06:38 PM

After a deep look at this photo, I see the following as key awful features....
  • Nubbin
  • Flat SUV looking dash section above the glove box.
  • Whatever that part is that runs the whole length of the dash (metal bar?), just looks ugly. Hate to say it, the present pieces look much better.
  • The metal middle switches looks like they were directly pulled from a Mustang, look out of place. Porsche, think up something original here please.
  • It looks like the AC vents have really been downgraded in materials. 991's look relatively expensive, these look like Kia pieces.
  • Center vents have ridiculous placement.
  • What are the cut-out pieces right above he glove box? Another cup holder? Ditch that, or make it an option, let the passenger hold their own cup.
  • The sharp/hard transition point on the top portion of the dash from the screen to the gauge area looks very poor/cheap. Over time, it has a good chance to pull, warp and disfigure.
  • Nubbin (deserves to be mentioned twice)
If this is indeed the final looking dash, it looks like an exercise in cost cutting rather then an upscale improvement of the existing 991 dash.
Don't mind the digital gauges, but would like to see it being an option instead of the rule. They will look dated quickly.

IMO they should have just taken the 991 dash, and enlarged the screen area a bit (I don't need a TV looking thing in the car, but a little bigger would not hurt)
Take the existing cup holders out and place a single hidden one somewhere in the console. Turn the present "smoking" door/cubby into a hidden cup holder. Does not need to be large.
Get rid of all the blanks in the switch area,....try and reduce the buttons needed and then have a few separate face plates so nothing looks empty.
The rest was always perfectly fine with me, fairly functional and good looking. I like the new door handles,....but not much else.

Overall, it just looks like a downgrade rather than an upgrade in design, quality and materials,....and nothing like a lot of better looking dashes out there from other premier makers.

FrenchToast 10-18-2018 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Rocket_boy (Post 15370580)
After a deep look at this photo, I see the following as key awful features....

Let me help
  • Nubbin - we all know, it's a shaver.
  • Flat SUV looking dash section above the glove box. - White Castle burgers have to sit somewhere
  • What is that part that runs the whole length of the dash (metal bar?) - it's a big blade, if you prefer to shave with a single blade rather than the nubbin
  • Center vents have ridiculous placement. - their primary function is to cool the nubbin, it can overheat easily
  • What are the cut-out pieces right above he glove box? - storage for replacement nubbin heads

in all seriousness..

Originally Posted by Rocket_boy (Post 15370580)
If this is indeed the final looking dash

Yes it is the final design. Has been finalized for a few years. Suppliers' tooling is probably ready to rollout if it hasn't already.

The overall design is clearly inspired by the 993 (and late 964). The section profile is very similar, but is stretched vertically to accomodate all the amenities. The deviating color "blade" increases the perceived vertical height of the dash. IMO, if the blade was removed along with any related profiling and the glovebox was a little smaller (but importantly breaks the existing continuous horizontal line), the dash wouldn't appear so large.

The location of the vents are too allow the sizable screen at that height. They probably can't go below the vents to either comply with upcoming legislation or avoid potential lawsuit over something like an "inconvenient height compared to windshield base" (doesn't address the necessary change in focal depth of the eye, but people sue over anything).

They could mount the screen above the dash, but that would look silly. It is my understanding that screens must be (or in the very near future) permanently mounted to achieve a minimum time from engagement of reverse gear to display of rearview camera.

I bet no one ever thought they would ever have more TVs than a fully-optioned Avalanche

All that said, I am actually not displeased with the design of the 992. I do reserve full judgment until seeing it in person however.

limegreen 10-18-2018 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by Rocket_boy (Post 15370580)

Has anyone else noticed that the glove box door is the entire underside of the passenger dashboard?
Perhaps that's where they keep the 5 gallons of window cleaner and 10 bags of microfiber towels that will be needed to constantly clean the finger grease off that stupid haptic touch screen center console.

Porsche911GTS'16 10-18-2018 09:13 PM

You could practically fit a 997 in that cup holder. I agree that the current cup holders are far from perfect (the one for the driver's side is poorly placed inasmuch as if you go over a bump, the drink can spill onto the buttons and make them sticky - ask me how I know...) But the new cup holder looks out of place to me. No, won't affect the car's sure to be amazing acceleration and driving dynamics, but it just doesn't look the part of a 911 to me, anyway. But I'll take 500 black hole cup holders over the nubbin.

STG 10-18-2018 09:21 PM

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limegreen 10-18-2018 09:56 PM

The center console of a 911 used to be exclusively dedicated to shifting the car and later added buttons to make it more aggressive and louder.

Now it's most prominent feature is dedicated to holding a freakin big gulp. Who cares about cup holders in a sports car? Better yet, how many people actually allow beverages in their 911 at all?

I'd like to meet the people who actually asked for this cup holder and individually punch them in the face.

STG 10-18-2018 09:57 PM

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