Two Killed in 140-MPH Crash Involving Porsche 911 Turbo
07-16-2022, 01:45 AM
#76
AWD/RWD/FWD/NoWheelDrive will all behave the same in the rain let alone a thunderstorm if were not talking about putting your foot down on the gas and traction under throttle. At that point it's completely up to the tires.
You've taken a TTS through a significant rain storm and it was a peach. How slow were you going? I've done that in a Base, 4S, GTS, GT3, and TTS.. All five were white knuckle experiences. Standing water? Forget about it. Regardless of what rubber (P Zero, PS4S, Cup2) All four cars needed to stay under 50 mph for peace of mind otherwise the car is skating. Anything but "friendly". Also, on that point the Cup 2's wet traction is greatly underrated.
Also, the topic isn't "relevant to public street driving". See thread title.
Oh Rennlist, you operate in mysterious ways... One day you'll see nothing but TTS bashing posts. Fat pig, yadda yadda yadda.. Now It's the opposite. I'm beginning to learn that my car is an indestructible missile on rails that slays supercars and exotics. I need to see a doctor, my sensories are off.
You've taken a TTS through a significant rain storm and it was a peach. How slow were you going? I've done that in a Base, 4S, GTS, GT3, and TTS.. All five were white knuckle experiences. Standing water? Forget about it. Regardless of what rubber (P Zero, PS4S, Cup2) All four cars needed to stay under 50 mph for peace of mind otherwise the car is skating. Anything but "friendly". Also, on that point the Cup 2's wet traction is greatly underrated.
Also, the topic isn't "relevant to public street driving". See thread title.
Oh Rennlist, you operate in mysterious ways... One day you'll see nothing but TTS bashing posts. Fat pig, yadda yadda yadda.. Now It's the opposite. I'm beginning to learn that my car is an indestructible missile on rails that slays supercars and exotics. I need to see a doctor, my sensories are off.
As a tts owner, I’ve never bashed it. I really enjoy tracking the GT cars, but consistently tell folks the gts and tts are better all around cars for street driving. The GT cars offer theater that the TTS doesn’t, but the TTS is much much faster off track at basically everything, and more comfortable
07-16-2022, 01:48 AM
#77
Members drive these cars in the snow with proper winter tires. They’re a peach in the rain.
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07-16-2022, 10:55 AM
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08-27-2022, 11:38 AM
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I don’t think that is the car. No crown rally livery and the pics I saw in first post linked article look much worse
08-27-2022, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rk-d
Haven't driven a CS. Had an M5 Competition. Ironically, I feel more comfortable and confident at speed in the TTS. Steering feedback is way better and you have a better sense of what the car is doing. The smaller dimensions and lower weight make the car more maneuverable. The M5 goes nearly as fast as a TTS, so it's not like it's a slower car but it's not as capable a sports car. For me, feedback = safety.
08-30-2022, 07:50 AM
#84
No one has commented on this: "ejecting the driver." Now surely these guys had their seatbelts on. So how did this happen? I would think that the belts would tension up and the airbags deploy when they first went sideways and dug into probably loose dirt. Rolling several times, it might have been several seconds before they came to a rest.How long do the belts remain tensioned? If only a second or so, that is a damn good reason to have harnesses and at least a harness bar. I know people who have driven Daytona w/ only stock belts and that scares the heck out of me. A blowout at 165 and you are a goner.
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08-30-2022, 08:06 AM
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09-02-2022, 04:01 PM
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09-03-2022, 03:59 PM
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I have a 991.1 GT3 and don’t find the ride to be too harsh for street use. I do find the lack of parking sensors and cameras an issue though. I am not a track guy, just love the shape of the GT3. I would definitely be happier in a TTS, just can’t get past the intake above rear wheels.
09-09-2022, 11:32 AM
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Point taken. I'm a broken car guy so TTS or GT3=Yes please.. I went with TTS for the reasons you mentioned, and in the every day world I would spank a GT3. However, that's not to say I do not or could not own a GT3. I would and will. The GT3's rougher more track focused ride would not bother me personally.
What have I said contradicts what you've read on the subject? I'm arguing that the GT3 is safer at the limits, especially going 140mph like the thread title states. What people read and think about the TTS isn't always true. Would I rather be in a TTS in the rain? Sure thing. Still though, any 911 is butt clenching scary in the wet. My TTS on PS4S still hydroplanes like it's on ice on wet surfaces. Even on small amounts of standing water (at highway speeds 60+).
Bang on the TTS is a far superior machine in street conditions. On the track, it IS NOT more competent than a 992 GT3. At the limit, it understeers like crazy and the weight is super noticable. You have to be a FAR better driver to extract the same time from a Turbo S as you would from a GT3. The AWD helps if you break traction and need to recover... but in a 992 GT3, you wouldn't be in that situation in the first place.
Every serious track guy and racecar driver I know laughs at journos. That is the difference between people who DO stuff and READ stuff.
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09-23-2022, 09:25 PM
#90
Can hypothetically go 150+ with the top down for miles and miles with no issues because doing it on roads that are experienced.
Moronic to drive faster than 80-120 on roads you don't know. and this is coming from a moron who has hypothetically blasted through an LA freeway, the first time there, mid day and night with plenty of traffic, at 130mph, with 4 bald tires. Nothing happened to this hypothetical moron but in hindsight it's not really a great idea is it.
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