7382929296

I’ve driven mine a few thousand miles at this point and as a street car it’s definitely the weakest offering compared to other exotic cars outside of “wtf” presence thanks to the wing. All the other brands give more excitement going legal speed limits than the RS. Obviously the RS runs circles around the others when it comes to the track, but again it isn’t a true track car. When I go to the track, I still need a trailer to bring my wheels and tires along with a few tools. To me it’s no different than bringing a track only car out.

I do agree that the RS is the perfect car for someone who can drive to and from the track, have it serviced by a local dealer, have easy parts and tires, have the safety systems of a normal car, etc. It’s the best track car before going into a track only car which requires more resources to run and maintain properly. However, for half a million dollars you can achieve that no problem. If you got the 3RS at MSRP, definitely a better value proposition, but at half a million, might as well do track only and normal car combo.

The Radical SR10 XXR starts at $169,999 and has faster ring time than the 3RS. Can buy that, a truck, a trailer, and still have $230,000 leftover for something fun. 3RS is amazing if you get it for 250-300k, but at 450-525k, value proposition just isn’t there.

PTS

Huh? You cannot make that an argument against the value of the 3RS because you're choosing to run some kind of track slick with track wheels. The 3RS runs just fine on stock wheels and OEM tires, and even upgraded tires that fit the stock wheels that can be driven to and from the track. There is absolutely no need for a trailer if you're tracking a 3RS. That is purely add-on, which can be done for any car you're choosing to track that is street legal

cscrogham

Radical lol

M&Abanker4life

All good points but I think the fact that anyone can drive it to the track without a trailer is the key differentiator plus the warranty.

A cup car has no warranty, absolutely requires a trailer everywhere it goes (Inc to and from service) and a maintenance crew and much higher operating costs given the hourly rebuild schedules on the engine and trans.

So 3RS wins as it’s an out of the box, turn key track car for minimal outlay in most cases except consumables.
At MSRP or up 50-75, you’re still ahead.

Cup car absolutely requires a trailer which requires a TV etc etc. Assume consumables are the same for simplicity. Then add the inconvenience factor of having to trailer to and from service appointments, support (maybe no need for support crew except maintenance and setup) and then no warranty. Then add the much higher operating costs for rebuild accruals etc (can likely stretch if not racing but still not cheap!).

Would wager 3RS wins the majority of the time on a PV basis. However, at 100-150+ above MSRP, your argument for the cup car or alternatives start making more sense for sure for those looking for a track only vehicle and can stomach the higher operating costs.

GatorBait2001

Clearly there are enough people out there willing and able to pay $100k and over that in mark ups. I have yet to stop by a dealer and hear they are having trouble filling allocations. Everyone is entitled to their option and no one is forced to buy one but the market seems to give the 3RS more credit than many here.

Maybe some of you will be the lucky few who get one at MSRP, albeit probably once the car is 6-8 year old....

M&Abanker4life

the 992 3RS really does narrow the gap between cup car and street car performance, more than any generation before it!

usctrojanGT3

Agreed but it's way over the top to drive around on the street and that's why the want factor for me isn't as high, I actually enjoy driving the Touring more than I thought. It doesn't help that I'm only down to doing 6-8 track days a year because I just don't have the time which also reduces the want factor for the 3RS.

RossP

Agreed. And once you realize what this actually means, you will realize how crazy it is that people track the RS without it having full safety gear (Cage, containment seat, 6-points, fire suppression etc.)

M&Abanker4life

100% agree - for a street driven vehicle or daily that can double for track duty, gt3 winged or touring is the best way to go!

M&Abanker4life

Absolutely - half cage , 6pt harness for driver and passenger , hans and a proper helmet at a minimum.
Easy to get away without that gear until you don’t.

usctrojanGT3

The Touring does get a little lively with less aero on track in certain spots so I don't push as hard as I do with the 4RS.

big_cheese

What’s the normal process for getting on a waitlist for an allocation? My local dealer wants me to give them a copy of my current registration and car insurance in order to get a form for a deposit to be put on a waitlist.

No idea how my current registration or insurance could have anything to do with my willingness or ability to purchase a new car? Feel like I’m about to get my info stolen by my local brand ambassador, is this common?

7382929296

Scam for sure. Waitlist is your name written down and a $1000-10,000 deposit with a receipt stating waitlist deposit for GT3 along with an email or printout stating your position on the waitlist. That’s been my experience across 4 dealers.

bpeacock

That sounds suspicious. I can't imagine why they'd need any of that information.

mass27

I actually think that sounds legitimate. Dealers do not like to sell out of state and deal with all of the tax ramifications if they mess up. Local taxing authorities go after the dealers first, then the dealers have to chase down the customer. Furthermore, dealers are also tired of out of state LLCs or other tax schemes. Finally, PCNA is involved in this as well as PFS is prohibiting financing depending on your location or your entity type.

So yea, why should a dealer trust you without documentation of who you are and where you live?