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Old 10-05-2023 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BrntRubber
675 Is the one. Spider


good idea on the on5


Don't tease us. A little mor info pls C.J.
I would say Roof Scoop Coupe 675LT is the one. I am biased.
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Old 10-05-2023 | 08:45 PM
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I would say Roof Scoop Coupe 675LT is the one. I am biased.
I concur doctor
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Old 10-05-2023 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
I'm going to be saving my money (after the ST) for the 80's heritage model. That one should be the most up my alley.
This is what I want to see. Another couple years out?
Old 10-05-2023 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
I'm going to be saving my money (after the ST) for the 80's heritage model. That one should be the most up my alley.

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Old 10-06-2023 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by WenigerAberBeser
Why pick and choose
all is obviously the correct choice
Old 10-06-2023 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Justaroofer
That's why they force you to return the lease to the selling dealer and they add market adjustment.
that’s not going to fly. Porsche Finance holds the lease. Either you can buy it out, or you can’t. Return to your dealer is the same as you can’t. They can turn around and sell it to someone else. Porsche will absolutely get sued if they try that. You can’t change the terms of a purchase retroactively which “after one year, we decided to randomly change the price” would be.

and this is how they plan to treat their best customers ? No.
Old 10-06-2023 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DodoBrd
you should build it how you like it, not how the market likes it
Are you trying to shut down this sub-forum with this logic? LOL
Old 10-06-2023 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by AlexCeres
that’s not going to fly. Porsche Finance holds the lease. Either you can buy it out, or you can’t. Return to your dealer is the same as you can’t. They can turn around and sell it to someone else. Porsche will absolutely get sued if they try that. You can’t change the terms of a purchase retroactively which “after one year, we decided to randomly change the price” would be.

and this is how they plan to treat their best customers ? No.
They absolutely can. People can gladly sue them, but those people won't be VIPs as they're not included in the lease deal.
Old 10-06-2023 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by AlexCeres
that’s not going to fly. Porsche Finance holds the lease. Either you can buy it out, or you can’t. Return to your dealer is the same as you can’t. They can turn around and sell it to someone else. Porsche will absolutely get sued if they try that. You can’t change the terms of a purchase retroactively which “after one year, we decided to randomly change the price” would be.

and this is how they plan to treat their best customers ? No.
They are already making their 'best' customers take out a dumbass lease... where does the rabbit hole end?

They could have thought through the whole lease thing more, why penalize their best customers with interest
Old 10-06-2023 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DodoBrd
They are already making their 'best' customers take out a dumbass lease... where does the rabbit hole end?

They could have thought through the whole lease thing more, why penalize their best customers with interest
because they re flipoers by "design"?
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If I get an allocation the additional cost will be PCNA interest plus 7% of $325 or $22,750 and any other cost associated with their lease. I started buying their cars in 1995 and am considered a good customer at my dealer as I am #1 for the first allocation. This is a screwing for those who never flipped a car and in the end will do little to stop the problem.
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Old 10-06-2023 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by white6speed
If I get an allocation the additional cost will be PCNA interest plus 7% of $325 or $22,750 and any other cost associated with their lease. I started buying their cars in 1995 and am considered a good customer at my dealer as I am #1 for the first allocation. This is a screwing for those who never flipped a car and in the end will do little to stop the problem.
Throwing the baby out with the bath water. Majority screwed for a minority problem.
Old 10-06-2023 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by white6speed
If I get an allocation the additional cost will be PCNA interest plus 7% of $325 or $22,750 and any other cost associated with their lease. I started buying their cars in 1995 and am considered a good customer at my dealer as I am #1 for the first allocation. This is a screwing for those who never flipped a car and in the end will do little to stop the problem.
classic example of ‘good intention, bad execution’

Ive been told I will get one, too as long as they get at least one allocation. But I still take a step back and think: ‘is this car really worth $350k to me?’ - the only justification is… if I don’t like it, I can get my money back at the very least
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Seems like many are confused. Thus has nothing to do with stopping flippers. This has to do with retaking control of the profits of the flip. Cards are in the dealers hands now after the lease is up and the dealers nets the rewards of the market correction, adm, flip, whatever you choose to call it.

This isn't about brand loyalists receiving respect from the brand they love, its about profits to the mothership.

In all frankness and not to be rude to the VIP list, but if Porsche was truly smart they would've made the VIP program null and void Citing Covid and extreme market constraints. In return leveling the playing field to the market. The sad reality the worst flippers are 918 guys and congrats to them!

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Originally Posted by Justaroofer
They absolutely can. People can gladly sue them, but those people won't be VIPs as they're not included in the lease deal.
this makes zero sense. My gf and i both bought out our leases in late 21 when used car prices wholesale 20-30% more than our buyouts from audi. We didnt cut a check to the dealer as she bought out of state we cut a check to audi financial. You seem to know so much about a car you clearly dont like.


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