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Old 09-19-2023, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pcar-yvr
I've also heard back from one of the "lucky" ones who got to drive the S/T. This guy also had lots of seat time in the 991 and 992 GT3 variants.

1) Looks better in dark colours to hide the front fender aero
2) Couldn't feel any power / weight difference from a regular manual 992 GT3 with PCCBs / Carbon Buckets. Zero
3) Handling felt less sharp than regular GT3 (likely due to no RWS), although commented some may prefer that less pointy feel.
4) This guy hasn't stalled a Porsche in over 20 years, but stalled the S/T twice (as did another famous name from Porsche GT Dept). Something about the way the revs drop suddenly / new clutch design - especially in reverse.
haven't tested but its not difficult to understand why will stall often
and being a road car doesn't sound a good thing on a 510 HP car
though it was good on the old small sport cars
Old 09-19-2023, 05:36 PM
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Waiting for the next "feels so different from 992 Touring". I mean come on lemmings.
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Old 09-19-2023, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RyanSD
LOL this thread is entertaining.
I'll wait patiently for a negative journalist review of the car.
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Old 09-19-2023, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rosenbergendo
Waiting for the next "feels so different from 992 Touring". I mean come on lemmings.
Gotta build that WANT factor to extract max ADMs baby.
Old 09-19-2023, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pcar-yvr
I've also heard back from one of the "lucky" ones who got to drive the S/T. This guy also had lots of seat time in the 991 and 992 GT3 variants.

1) Looks better in dark colours to hide the front fender aero
2) Couldn't feel any power / weight difference from a regular manual 992 GT3 with PCCBs / Carbon Buckets. Zero
3) Handling felt less sharp than regular GT3 (likely due to no RWS), although commented some may prefer that less pointy feel.
4) This guy hasn't stalled a Porsche in over 20 years, but stalled the S/T twice (as did another famous name from Porsche GT Dept). Something about the way the revs drop suddenly / new clutch design - especially in reverse.
Sounds like an honest first impression. The differences vs. a GT3 will be at the margins - not transformative. I personally welcome the RWS delete and more challenging clutch engagement.
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Old 09-19-2023, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rosenbergendo
Waiting for the next "feels so different from 992 Touring". I mean come on lemmings.
Waiting for the next (and 500th) "feels identical to a 992 Touring, but costs $200K more." Parts Bin Suckers!
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Old 09-19-2023, 05:58 PM
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Early Rennlist expectations v. first critical review...



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Old 09-19-2023, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Gotta build that WANT factor to extract max ADMs baby.
I really don't think Porsche is in favor of high ADM's and the reviewers are more beholden to Porsche than its dealers (the ones who want high ADM's).

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Old 09-19-2023, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
I'll wait patiently for a negative journalist review of the car.
Yup, right after all those other negative journalist review of ANY Porsche of late.
Old 09-19-2023, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mass27
Yup, right after all those other negative journalist review of ANY Porsche of late.
There have been plenty of negative reviews of many Porsches over the last few years, just not of any GT 911s.
They tend to be pretty good cars … I kinda thought it’s why many of us here own them.
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Old 09-19-2023, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by soulsea
There have been plenty of negative reviews of many Porsches over the last few years, just not of any GT 911s.
They tend to be pretty good cars … I kinda thought it’s why many of us here own them.
Can you define "negative"?

And "plenty" as well.
Old 09-19-2023, 06:26 PM
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The upcoming reviews are a lose lose for those who like the car.

Unanimously good reviews, "these guys are all drinking the Porsche kool-aid and want to be invited back to drive more cars"

A few reviews that state it's very similar to a Touring for less money, "I told you kool-aid drinkers this car ain't sh*t for the money"

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Old 09-19-2023, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Can you define "negative"?

And "plenty" as well.
I don’t know, I’ve run across plenty of negative or mixed reviews from reputable sources of cayennes, panameras, macans, over the last few years.

Heck Catchpole, Harry, and others were super meh about the SC and said they’d rather have a GTS. It’s not hater level negative but the idea that reputable reviewers are only positive about every Porsche, or even every 911, is simply untrue.
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Old 09-19-2023, 06:52 PM
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Let’s face it. All those that own a 992 Touring and either can’t get an ST or can’t afford an ST are going to say their Touring is better. Always happens. I want a review from some guy that could give two ****s. They are a decent driver, drive both and won’t be getting or own any GT cars. That will be the hopefully true and unbiased opinions.
Old 09-19-2023, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by goin2drt
Let’s face it. All those that own a 992 Touring and either can’t get an ST or can’t afford an ST are going to say their Touring is better. Always happens. I want a review from some guy that could give two ****s. They are a decent driver, drive both and won’t be getting or own any GT cars. That will be the hopefully true and unbiased opinions.
If I do get offered an ST and take it I will certainly compare it honestly and fairly to my 992 GT3. If it disappoints I’ll be the first one to point it out.

At some point these cars are going to get into people’s hands, both owners and reviewers … the more feedback gets out there a consensus opinion will develop and the outliers on both the positive and negative side will reveal themselves and their biases.

But at the end of the day the only opinion that matters is do you like it as much as you paid for it, no matter what anyone else thinks.

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