Justaroofer

GRACIAS!

Bubba Wibs

Yes my dealership just confirmed that the watch is a 18k “standard option”. Good news is I had already accepted the total price not knowing I’m getting a watch. Now knowing I have no choice in the matter definitely makes me majorly irritated. My dealership has no control or say on it.

usctrojanGT3

Interesting, I wonder if the watch will be a required purchase for the US buyer (including the 918 VIPs).

GrantG

unlikely

Justaroofer

Grunspan

not required for the SC

Alan Smithee

Also curious to see if this is to discourage or prevent dealers charging ADM. Will they allow six figure ADM as a cap reduction, and you don’t own the car? Roll it into a high MF mandatory lease payment? Is the car so great that people will do either?

usctrojanGT3

Nope, they'll just say....you want the ST at MSRP to lease.....OK, that Taycan Turbo S sitting on the lot is MSRP + $200k.

Whoopsy

Toyota did it many years ago with the purchase of the LFA, all are on a initial lease.

timothymoffat

It will be nice when the embargo from the media launch is over. There will then be a tidal wave of videos proclaiming the ST to be the best/greatest/last/(insert here) 911 of all time. At least then the bitching will change gear from who did and didn't get an allocation and discussion on pricing to the actual car.....for a short time anyway.

I love 911s and have for 40 years (holy **** I'm getting old!). But the love affair started with the car itself and had zero to do with price, status, or anything else for that matter. It was a car like no other. "The market" as it is today is a bit nauseating. People used to buy 911s and drive the crap out of them for endless miles. That's a rarity these days.

usctrojanGT3

I'm not quite as old as you but I got into the Porsche world with the 997 GT3. That was also a time when people actually drove and tracked their GT cars. Now many of the newer GT cars are treated like an investment instead of a car.

timothymoffat

I'm 53 and got my first Porsche, a 95 993 coupe purchased in 2006, at age 36. Hindsight can always be a little rose-tinted but I completely agree. At the time I bought my car it was a used 911. THE car to have was a GT3 and if you had one, you tracked it plain and simple. What has always attracted me to 911s since a teen is their useability, reliability, and more than anything their durability. People actually drove them and used them as regular transportation. There are those that still do but they are now the exception rather than the rule. A car sat in a garage can not make great stories or memories. And that's not a car I want.

Manifold

For those who want an S/T and think they won't be able to get one, perhaps there will be more than one round of allocations, and you might be able to get one?

usctrojanGT3

Agreed, one of the main reasons that I keep coming back to Porsche is the reliability and the performance on the cars. I've got well over 100 track days in Porsches in the past 10+ years and the only issues that I've ever had with any of the GT cars that I've tracked was a cracked coolant plastic hose/valve on my GT4 and blowing a hole in my Ti muffler on my 997.2 GT3RS (both replaced under warranty).

usctrojanGT3

Doubtful as dealers will only get 1-2 cars so all of the allocations with be released at one time.