mass27

False. You don't know what the majority of US dealers will do.

Can't you just say...some dealers MAY sell their S/T allocations to the highest bidder? You will be much more credible this way.

Back to your point, I think that the majority of US dealers will give their 1-2 allocations to their best customer at MSRP and the huge ADMs that pop on BAT will be the minority of transactions of new S/Ts, numerically. I am not counting the 2nd and 3rd resale of the same car. All bets are off on those...including your revered PNH.

Whoopsy

Frank Walliser.

The board backs him 100%.

Whatever he touches turns golden.

He saved the 918 program. Then he led the 919's winning efforts. After that he was head of 911 and 718 and we all knew how good that went. Now he is in charge of all future products' technical development.

Porsche have a really bright star rising up the ranks very very quickly.

I got to know him because of the 918 program, I have his signature on my dash, only car he signed during the production process as that signature is factory clear coated over. He signed many more cars after but all are under the hood.

usctrojanGT3

It wouldn't be as fun for me to be on RL if I couldn't bash bad dealers. We are both very fortunate that we have a relationship with a good dealer that takes care of us, we can both agree on that. I'm hoping to get out to COTA in Nov so beers and BBQ on me (I order it via Task Rabbit and have it delivered to the track) if you plan on going there too.

usctrojanGT3

I'm fairly certain that the MAJORITY of US dealers will go for the cash grab because they'll hear about the big ADMs that the usual suspects are charging. The fact is that there are less and less dealers out there who sell their GT cars for MSRP as demand has grown since COVID so that points to me being right.

usctrojanGT3

Well having now driven my 4RS enough, I am so glad that Frank got the GT4RS past the finish line. I loved tracking my 981/718 GT4s but always wanted a bit more power and aero out of the car. The 4RS nailed it for me and man oh man the sound of the intake and engine, it's vocal sex for my ears and it is a very close 2nd to my 997 4L. Can't wait to take the car on track once the weather cools down.

Manifold

I don't agree that it's ridiculous to bring it up in the conversation, particularly when the conversation gets overheated about nothing, as evidenced by personal attacks. Emotions aren't zero sum, but there can/should be a sense of proportion.

AlexCeres

fify

usctrojanGT3

I honestly don't get why people get all worked up about discussion about cars, they are just things made up of metal, plastic, and rubber. The most important things in life are family, friends, and good health.

kyrocks

Wow, so much hate. So much talking about scarcity and price and blah blah. No one can even answer my questions on exhaust or green dials above.
Now I remember why I left this forum years ago…

usctrojanGT3

Sure I'll buy that for a dollar as it summarizes my reasoning.

Manifold

This may tell us more about ourselves than we want to know:

https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/v...t=businessdiss

"This research seeks to provide an understanding of consumers’ psychological responses to the scarcity environments that are strategically created by retailers. A mixed method design provides both qualitative and statistical understanding of this phenomenon. The findings across four studies define a new construct that captures consumers’ understanding of the product shortage that is strategically created by the retailer, differentiates it from scarcity situations where the retailer does not necessary limit the supply of the product, and suggests that consumers react differently in the varied conditions. The study suggests that strategically controlled environments, by creating product uncertainty, are able to motivate behaviors such as urgency to buy. It is further suggested that urgency to buy is mediated by emotions like anticipated regret that these retailers are able to successfully generate in the mind of the consumer. Further, scarcity communicated by the retailer threatens consumers’ freedom, thus triggering psychological reactance and encouraging them to take immediate actions like in–store hoarding and in–store hiding, to safeguard their behavioral freedom. The study also takes into account individual traits like competitiveness, hedonic shopping motivations, and need for uniqueness, and examines their influence on consumers’ behavioral responses. The results suggest that consumers high on these traits are more likely to exhibit competitive and deviant behaviors like in–store hoarding and in–store hiding. Also, the role of gender is examined and it is suggested that, unlike their stereotypical apparel buying behaviors, males with high hedonic shopping motivations are more likely to exhibit behaviors like in–store hoarding and in–store hiding. By examining consumers’ psychological and behavioral responses to human–induced scarcity conditions, this research seeks to make theoretical contribution to the scarcity literature. From a methodological stand point, this research contributes to the consumer and retail literature by defining and operationalizing constructs like perceived scarcity, urgency to buy, and in–store hiding."

kyrocks

I buy what I like. If I still lived in the US or spent the majority of my time there, I would buy a GT3 RS. However, I don’t, so the S/T is a good fit for me now. That’s how I see it. Unlike others here, I’m not continuously bashing the car and price nor am I praising it and trying to change peoples minds. I actually think it’s going to be a very good drive (best 992) based on its parts bin characteristics. Maybe I’m wrong, but at least I’ll be the one to figure it out.

GrantG

Nah, wouldn't it only be necessary that the GT3 RS is faster than the GT4 RS, GT3 faster than GT4, 992 GTS faster than 718 GTS, etc?

I don't think every version of the 911 has to be faster than every version of the Cayman (rule already broken, if so).

Grunspan

too soon. Let’s vector off silly analogies. We are better than this

Grunspan

Pretty grotesque hypothetical. Let’s stop. A little respect.