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Spoke to Jeff Gamroth about Dickinson, who wanted to buy his engines on credit that's why his engines aren't in Singer Porsches now.
Can you elaborate; I believe that PMNA is/was? building engines for Singer.
Originally Posted by Whoopsy
Well they did to the one before, the Dakar. That car is truly special. It was a few years in the making. They never had a factory retail 911 that can go off road.
And the cars before that, the GT4RS, Spyder RS. Those are under development for basically 5 years.
There are rumors that a “Dakar” model or package may be part of the model range from 992.2 forward, based on the success of the limited Dakar model (a la 911 R —> GT3 Touring); have you heard anything?
Styling is subjective, but this 2021 AMG GT hopefully drives better than it looks. I had an 1999 vintage SL65 some years back. Unimpressed, I flipped it inside 5 months.
What did they have to develop for the Spyder RS? I think that's probably one of the lowest development cars they've released. Copy/Paste GT4RS into a spyder chassis and put together some crap roof mechanism to put it together. If you're talking about adding lightness, the 4RS and Spyder RS are heavier than the larger 911 GT cars
(I still love the idea of the Spyder RS, I just dont think they put any R&D into it lol)
Pretty much spot on. All the development was already on the GT4RS, which ran for over half decade. Go find my post on the disclosure of the incoming GT4RS, say like 5 years ago. Which Porsche wasn't pleased with, and also which I don't give a F, which they also accepted. Which, incidentally, is also much long than they have spent on developing the S/T. Which is incidentally one of the lowest development cost car they have done in a a long while. They spent more time doing the 911R than the S/T.
Lightness about the S/T? cool, there are at least 250lbs that they skipped on the S/T, if not a full 500 lbs.
I got rid of my 992 GT3 even before I have my GT4RS, that's how inferior the 992 GT3 compared to the GT4RS.
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And the Dakar? Heck it trumps basically everything from Porsche. Including the 918. Which is already hard to top.
Lightness about the S/T? cool, there are at least 250lbs that they skipped on the S/T, if not a full 500 lbs.
A 2700lb ST would have given every driver a $500k boner. Kidneys would have been offered in the RL Marketplace. There would be zero criticism in this thread.
How do we get to that for a 2 seat road going 992? Will be interesting to see how owners manage to reduce weight without losing practicality and all round appeal of the car.
I got rid of my 992 GT3 even before I have my GT4RS, that's how inferior the 992 GT3 compared to the GT4RS.
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And the Dakar? Heck it trumps basically everything from Porsche. Including the 918. Which is already hard to top.
An off-roading 911 (which makes zero sense to begin with) trumping everything from Porsche?...you know what they say about opinions.
I'd wager you're the only person on the planet with that one. Aesthetically alone the Dakar looks dumb. I couldn't care less if my sports car can go in the mud. There are a million badass SUVs for that type of fun
08-15-2023, 07:30 PM
that's why his engines aren't in Singer Porsches now.
