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08-02-2023, 11:12 AM
#1651
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It's not a coincidence that they priced it at around what the current Touring market is hovering at.
I understand that that won't be the case once the ADMs start hitting the ST, but from Porsche's pov it's an easy call ... if these guys are willing to pay this much for a GT3 Touring we can at least charge that for an RS Touring.
I understand that that won't be the case once the ADMs start hitting the ST, but from Porsche's pov it's an easy call ... if these guys are willing to pay this much for a GT3 Touring we can at least charge that for an RS Touring.
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08-02-2023, 11:22 AM
#1652
Drifting
The bargain of the last 10 years was on the 911R with 991 units at a msrp of 185k.
The 991 Speedster was the beginning of Porsche grabbing all the money on the table with a similar msrp compared to the 911 S/T at around 298k with 1750 units.
There will be many S/T with a MSRP north of 400k with PTS and special CXX requests.
The 991 Speedster was the beginning of Porsche grabbing all the money on the table with a similar msrp compared to the 911 S/T at around 298k with 1750 units.
There will be many S/T with a MSRP north of 400k with PTS and special CXX requests.
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08-02-2023, 11:26 AM
#1653
Then throw a lithium battery in the car and a lighter exhaust and you basically have a similar weight.
08-02-2023, 11:34 AM
#1654
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08-02-2023, 11:36 AM
#1655
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The 991.2 Touring wasn't an R clone.
I could be wrong but I'd be surprised if Porsche didn't do something to make sure the ST is unique, even if it's a small thing they hold back on the 992.2 Touring. They tend to be mindful of such things.
I could be wrong but I'd be surprised if Porsche didn't do something to make sure the ST is unique, even if it's a small thing they hold back on the 992.2 Touring. They tend to be mindful of such things.
08-02-2023, 11:37 AM
#1656
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Tough crowd.
Now matter how you spec a touring this will always be 70lbs lighter. What do you mean? Wheels, gears, no rws, carbon roof, doors, fenders, flywheel and battery.
You can’t throw a lithium in a 992. Not with RWS. Get a lighter exhaust for S/T (titanium) and you’re pretty much at 3000lbs. That’s insane for a modern car.
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08-02-2023, 11:41 AM
#1658
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08-02-2023, 11:41 AM
#1659
Tough crowd.
Now matter how you spec a touring this will always be 70lbs lighter. What do you mean? Wheels, gears, no rws, carbon roof, doors, fenders, flywheel and battery.
You can’t throw a lithium in a 992. Not with RWS. Get a lighter exhaust for S/T (titanium) and you’re pretty much at 3000lbs. That’s insane for a modern car.
Now matter how you spec a touring this will always be 70lbs lighter. What do you mean? Wheels, gears, no rws, carbon roof, doors, fenders, flywheel and battery.
You can’t throw a lithium in a 992. Not with RWS. Get a lighter exhaust for S/T (titanium) and you’re pretty much at 3000lbs. That’s insane for a modern car.
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08-02-2023, 11:42 AM
#1660
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That's why I want to hear from reviewers with similar sensibilities to mine as to how special the ST total package is before I decide if I want to give up the SC for it.
08-02-2023, 11:43 AM
#1661
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08-02-2023, 11:56 AM
#1662
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While I haven’t driven the ST yet, I seriously doubt the Sport Classic will be more desirable or a better driver’s car than the ST.
P.S I own a Sport Classic as well
P.S I own a Sport Classic as well
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08-02-2023, 11:57 AM
#1663
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08-02-2023, 12:02 PM
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08-02-2023, 12:18 PM
#1665
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My build (blue with heritage package) without many other options added came out to be $330,000. You can have a low mileage ferrari 812 superfast for $40-50k more than that. I’d buy that ferrari at this price range. Far more special than this ST which to 99.99% “porsche people” is a GT3 touring which itself to 99.99% of “general public” is a base 911 without a wing. You are paying so much money to buy such an understated normal car. And I bet touring will outperform this in a windy mountain road like smokies because of RWS. I drove a 911 without RWS once and it felt really old and not agile. Very different feel. I get the retro look and drive but $330,000? Lol
I had a 488 spider and the one thing that I disliked about it is the attention it gets from the public
according to your though process , we all should be driving a base 911 , and why bother with other variants
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