The Touring Backseat Project
#91
These photos were supplied by Elfer Motors. Marked up by me.
"Remove the brackets on the wheel arches on the right and left (see photo)."
You remove the black bracket below. And you replace it with the larger of the two brackets from the Elfermotors kit. The Elfermotor bracket holds both the seat and the seatbelt.
"Fasten the center section with the supplied nuts and drill 4 x holes accordingly."
You have to drill 4 holes into the tub and inserts 4 nuts into the holes. These act as anchor points for the 3rd (smaller) bracket that is the mounting point for the center of the rear seats. The top seat belt anchors are already in the 992 (according to Elfer Motors) and you can screw in the seat belt pivot points.
I have sent a follow up email to Elfermotos asking. for drill bit and hardware sizes.
Simple right? What can go wrong?
"Remove the brackets on the wheel arches on the right and left (see photo)."
You remove the black bracket below. And you replace it with the larger of the two brackets from the Elfermotors kit. The Elfermotor bracket holds both the seat and the seatbelt.
"Fasten the center section with the supplied nuts and drill 4 x holes accordingly."
You have to drill 4 holes into the tub and inserts 4 nuts into the holes. These act as anchor points for the 3rd (smaller) bracket that is the mounting point for the center of the rear seats. The top seat belt anchors are already in the 992 (according to Elfer Motors) and you can screw in the seat belt pivot points.
I have sent a follow up email to Elfermotos asking. for drill bit and hardware sizes.
Simple right? What can go wrong?
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LJ-GT3 (05-23-2022)
#92
Yes. I just emailed them to see if they had an suggestions plus provide a close up picture. I don't fully understand how the rivet nuts are supposed to work / be installed.
I assume you drill the hole, insert the nut and the tightening of the bolt in the nut expands the nut? Here is a picture of the supplied part.
I assume you drill the hole, insert the nut and the tightening of the bolt in the nut expands the nut? Here is a picture of the supplied part.
#93
Yes. I just emailed them to see if they had an suggestions plus provide a close up picture. I don't fully understand how the rivet nuts are supposed to work / be installed.
I assume you drill the hole, insert the nut and the tightening of the bolt in the nut expands the nut? Here is a picture of the supplied part.
I assume you drill the hole, insert the nut and the tightening of the bolt in the nut expands the nut? Here is a picture of the supplied part.
The hole size has to be dead on so that the nut sort of presses in at the beginning of this.
#95
I have an update on my end. Elfermotors says that due to new customs issues between Germany and US it can take 3-4 weeks to get items through if they are valued at over 950 euros. So that's why we have a delay. Sounds like red tape on both sides. I'll keep you posted how my 991 comes along with this kit when it arrives.
#96
I have an update on my end. Elfermotors says that due to new customs issues between Germany and US it can take 3-4 weeks to get items through if they are valued at over 950 euros. So that's why we have a delay. Sounds like red tape on both sides. I'll keep you posted how my 991 comes along with this kit when it arrives.
I believe that everything will be straightforward. The main issue I see is correct alignment of the center bracket. I've asked Elfermotors for more pictures and videos of that process.
#99
@shack993 Thanks for the images from EM kit - how do the lower sections/cushions of the seats mount to the center bracket? Or do they not mount there?
#100
#103
Only comment I will make is that it is ridiculously loud in the GT3, and having your little kids ears that much closer to the rear of the car will most certainly damage their hearing. The GT3 and in particular GT3 RS has been one of the loudest interiors of most cars (hitting 108dB WOT) in the cabin and that is not a good thing. Since the driver is probably at least 2 feet in front of the proposed rear seats, my guess would be there would be close to at least 3dB increase sound in the rear seat location because they would be that much closer to the engine.
For sure have them wear ear protection when in the rear seats, but seriously consider adding sound insulation: GT3 DIY sound insulation - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums
For sure have them wear ear protection when in the rear seats, but seriously consider adding sound insulation: GT3 DIY sound insulation - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums
#104
I like the push on sound deadening. Remember, the point of my project is to solve for the <3 mile trips. I have three kids from ages 8 (twins) to 10. I need to get them to and from practice, school, etc. There might be an occasional on ramp, but if I am doing a long trip, there will be another car or I will have *one of them* in the front seat.
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Yargk (06-06-2022)