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Old 02-07-2022, 07:16 PM
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Dealer markup of PCCB cars just went up $xx,000
Old 02-07-2022, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris C.
Info I received from PCNA directly today:

- Current orders aren't impacted
- New orders as of Feb 3rd are impacted
- If you remove PCCB from a current order you cannot put it back

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I received the exact same info. However, my Lock date keeps getting delayed. During the past 1 1/2 weeks my Lock date (3/30 as of today) has been delayed by one month.
Old 02-07-2022, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris C.
Info I received from PCNA directly today:

- Current orders aren't impacted
- New orders as of Feb 3rd are impacted
- If you remove PCCB from a current order you cannot put it back

CC
This is exactly what happened when we tried to input PTS/PCCB order on Feb 3rd and got kicked back. My car supposed to finish production in June which is in the affected time frame. Fortunately my SA was able to move my June production to July so I can have PCCB. Needless to say I am happy as a clam

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Original lock date 02/15. - production 03/11 - arriving 05/03

Today, lock date 03/18 - production 04/01 - arriving 05/27


PCCB in my build and I will stay with them

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Old 02-08-2022, 07:55 AM
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Having second thought on going with iron brakes with my PTS order. It is like decking out in Gucci then wear Aldo shoes

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I’m a performance minded buyer, and choose the steels all day every day.
Old 02-08-2022, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by AdamSanta85
I’m a performance minded buyer, and choose the steels all day every day.

ya like the Cup cars I’ll take the Nikes for performance over the Faragamos. .

Old 02-08-2022, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasPorschelover
ya like the Cup cars I’ll take the Nikes for performance over the Faragamos. .
If the Cup cars were allowed to use ceramics, they would.

The braking performance is just more consistent with ceramics, which is what you want on track. The steels are good, but the performance and braking power does exhibit fade with heat.

F1 uses ceramics for a reason...
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Originally Posted by Bill_76
Original lock date 02/15. - production 03/11 - arriving 05/03

Today, lock date 03/18 - production 04/01 - arriving 05/27


PCCB in my build and I will stay with them
You took my slot! Just kidding.

Previous lock date (my third revision) 03/16 - production 04/01 - arriving 05/27

Today, lock date (4th revision) 03/30 - production 04/15 - arriving 06/10

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Old 02-08-2022, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
Then upgrade to Surface Transforms rotors or one of the excellent iron racing systems if you think the stock brakes are too low rent for you.
You know he just cares about provenance and the lack of brake dust.

Originally Posted by raymort
If the Cup cars were allowed to use ceramics, they would.

The braking performance is just more consistent with ceramics, which is what you want on track. The steels are good, but the performance and braking power does exhibit fade with heat.

F1 uses ceramics for a reason...
F1 uses carbon-carbon brakes, something that is different from street-spec CCM.

Vast majority of PCCB buyers care about keeping their wheels clean more than they care about performance. There are multiple ways to upgrade iron brake setups on any car in case they are not up to par before having to shell out nine grand for PCCBs.

Back on topic.

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Old 02-08-2022, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by cactusjack
There are multiple ways to upgrade iron brake setups on any car in case they are not up to par before having to shell out nine grand for PCCBs.
I am going to use the same recipe as every other sports car I have owned... high quality performance pad (Ferrodo/Endless), stainless lines, high temp brake fluid (Endless/Castrol).
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Originally Posted by cactusjack
You know he just cares about provenance and the lack of brake dust.



F1 uses carbon-carbon brakes, something that is different from street-spec CCM.

Vast majority of PCCB buyers care about keeping their wheels clean more than they care about performance. There are multiple ways to upgrade iron brake setups on any car in case they are not up to par before having to shell out nine grand for PCCBs.

Back on topic.
I think most PCCB buyers care about optioning the best and latest technology in keeping with the level of the rest of the car. It's mainly a price thing as I'm sure most would take them if they were a no-charge option.
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Old 02-08-2022, 01:56 PM
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LOL dusty wheels were not a concern when adding PCCB knowing in other Rennlist posts dust with new pads are issues. It is simply I want it, it is available and it is a complete package from Porsche for me. No need to tinker after market since I am not a performance expert........

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Originally Posted by cactusjack
You know he just cares about provenance and the lack of brake dust.



F1 uses carbon-carbon brakes, something that is different from street-spec CCM.

Vast majority of PCCB buyers care about keeping their wheels clean more than they care about performance. There are multiple ways to upgrade iron brake setups on any car in case they are not up to par before having to shell out nine grand for PCCBs.

Back on topic.
PCCBs beat steels in performance, without question. If you want to add price to the equation, then things will change based on your wallet.

But, the initial proposition was that steels were just as good as steels, not whether one was "worth it" more than the other.
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Old 02-08-2022, 05:35 PM
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No one seriously buys iron brakes over PCCBs because they believe the irons actually perform better than their ceramic counterparts. Just the reduction in unsprung weight alone is enough to make PCCBs a no-brainer over irons.

It simply comes down to a question of QPR, and a person's budget for brakes.
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