horns

I will own one. I've become a bit partial to Porsche GT cars, but more than that, I like cars that speak to you regardless of the badge or how perfect the stiching is. Listening to the savagegeese video around the 49min market speaks to me. Sure the trans won't be as connected as the pdks and the interior refinement might be lacking, but I dont care. It's not an "or" proposition for me. The end is nearing for this type of product, and I'm at least going to give it a shot.

For folks that like engines, especially NA engines, sadly the days are numbered. Hearing the vehicle CE speculate that this is likely the pannicle for NA engines makes me glad that I'm able to enjoy them while they are still available. No doubt motors will push the performance envelope, but it isnt the same. I'm glad the decision makers gave this package the green light.

ipse dixit

Mr Mojo Risin

Don’t let it tempt you. I did with the C7 Z07 and regretted it. It was awesome my first weekend on track but broke every weekend thereafter; transmission, diff, splitter. Fact is that if your an advanced driver, the car will not be able to withstand the abuse, even over several months. But the real problem is the the GM mechanics don’t have the ability to fix it properly. So warranty is worthless.

groundhog

I would absolutely give the Z07 pack a go. 500kW/670HP running on 275 front and 345 rear, same as 992 GT3 RS. Definitely worth a look.

3-Pedals

I fell for this trap with my ZR1. It cost me half as much as a GT3RS when I bought it at the time (RS was going for $270-320k new, I paid $137k for ZR1). Later I ended up buying a GT3RS anyways and against all my instincts, kept the ZR1. To say that these cars are so different in design and production philosophy is understatement. Most people myself included look at both cars and say Corvette costs X, Porsche costs 1.8 or 2.5X. You get big brakes, wing, room, heated and cooled seats, and its a chevy so cost of ownership is cheap. Then there is the laptimes. “Oh look, ZR1 is 1 second off of the 3 times costing GT2RS”. Well, the issue with this line of thinking is once you pay for the car, you forget what it costs yet you are stuck driving it with all its faults. Uneven panel gaps, stitching that isnt straight, ***** and other things lifted from Chevy Suburban. All over the car wherever you look at afterthoughts. Then this stuff starts bothering you because eventually the novelties of the car starts to wear off.

My ZR1 for example. Last front engine RWD corvette. Manual transmission. Carbon fiber hood and more carbon fiber than you’ll get in a Porsche. 1,000 lbs of downforce. Yet beginning mile 20 all the way to mile 20,000 my issues with it kept piling up. After every drive I try to find reasons to justify keeping it.

You know how many times I felt the same way in 11,000 miles of owning my GT3RS? 0, nada, nil. Its just perfect. Every corner and aspect of the car shows engineering excellence. Corvette is unsophisticated. No matter how much progress they did with the engine, they screwed that much with the golf club fitting body. Car weighs 3750 lbs, is almost 10 inches longer, 5 inches wider than a 911. It has much longer wheelbase and drives like it too. Then there is the transmission. Did you see the gearing? Its like after 140 mph, car hits a wall. Which is why we’ll never see a nurburgring time. The people who built the engine probably used up all the money and transmission - which was built for stingray for fuel economy, had to be a compromise. Compromise is the name of the game with Chevy. They are still using old halogen bulbs that at night you are better off with a Lexus headlight. Does not compare to PDLS, night and day. They make a wing for the Z07 shape like a bird’s wing because they dont want the old timers to complain about rear visibility. Then they produce fake engine noise because the natural sound of the car might be too much for the Corvette market. These are all things that had Porsche built this car, they would have went the opposite direction in each element.

And then there is the looks. I mean who OKed this style? It has so many sharp edges, it looks extremely over the top. Do you like Escalades? When I see a Cadillac with their literally boxy style and tiny straight head and tail lights, I feel nauseous. It is hideous. If there is a word for complete opposite of “elegant” thats Escalade and so is this Z06.

Lastly, having owned ZR1 for so long (and this Z06 has even more aggressive looks), whenever I am driving it I dont want to get out of the car because I dont like the way I personally see myself leaving a car. Looks like I am trying to compensate for something. There is always that stigma to it. Car is too much “blaaaaaaaaaa” inside and out. Its too coarse.

I have also dealt with Chevy dealers and there is no way they are qualified to work on this Z06. Its impossible. GM simply pulled this engine off because a few senior execs OKed it but they dont have the infrastructure to support the car.

GrantG

I assume if there is an engine issue, they just replace it with a fresh one (like Porsche).

3-Pedals

Absolutely not, at least in C7. If you are burning oil, they will first change the piston rings, rebuild the engine. If it doesnt work, they’ll do the valve guides. Each of these is major surgery with an engine out service. Transmission leaks, they’ll try to repair the seal. Half shafts leak, same thing. They are so cheap, they nickel and dime everything.

thebishman

No one yet knows what GM will mandate re: a warranty engine repair for the C8 Z06. Given how ‘intricate’ these hand built engines are with such tight tolerances, I personally believe an engine swap might well be the norm. Time will tell.

Current practice for the DCT in the C8 is to replace the unit en masse unless it is a bad solenoid.

RealityGT

I've read on two forums that LT6 issues will likely mean complete engine swaps... GM/Chevy techs shouldn't be touching this engine... I gave up my early allocation due to the rollout debacle, but will be on the lookout come 2024.. Enough time to let them work the bugs out... waiting for professional driver reviews regarding the trans and gearing..

bubba928

Yes, the new Z06 will be a decent track car, but it will not have the staying power of practically any Porsche, if driven for years on the track.
The "limp home", if not now, will be a common occurrence in the future, if driven on a regular track basis.

sechsgang

However, I bet way more z06's will make it to actual tracks than the new RS.

bubba928

Yes. Agree and I'll be happy to see them on the track too as I give them a pass signal!

95spiderman

z06 even in z07 form will not be for the person who tracks 25/yr. it just wont hold up. porsche will be better but not perfect either. that person needs a dedicated track car on a trailer. but for the person who tracks 6/yr and will also drive it on street most nice days, the z06 with its all time great engine would be the choice. but maybe wait a few years until the inevitable bugs get worked out.

Captain P

I honestly want them to be freaking awesome, I need them to succeed and put pressure on Porsche and other brands out there. We need options and I hope they aggressively compete to win.

FrostyAZ

Only because there will be way more Z06 cars built. Maybe you won’t see many RS at track day events, most of the people that buy them will stick to private clubs. I bet the % of RS owners that track their cars is quite high, unlike regular GT3 which is much lower.