Originally Posted by KelvinC

AP pointed out that the 718 GT4 is about 30kg heavier when actually comparing like-for-like options w/ 981. Hardly a substantial weight gain, and easily made up for by the 30hp gain.

Originally Posted by MaxLTV

For perspective, that's 1.5 times MORE than the total gain in GT3 weight from 997.1 to 991.2 generations (DIN weight of 1,394 kg vs. 1,413 kg with manual), and that's including more standard equipment on 991.2.

Originally Posted by smiles11

I’ve seen a few guys on here that spend a majority of their time searching for affirmation on their 991’s by bringing down the 992. For someone who has no “interest” in one, why spend so much time seeking justification on keeping your 991.2? Who are you trying to convince for real... 😂

If you’re happy with your cars, go enjoy them.

Originally Posted by smiles11

I’ve seen a few guys on here that spend a majority of their time searching for affirmation on their 991’s by bringing down the 992. For someone who has no “interest” in one, why spend so much time seeking justification on keeping your 991.2? Who are you trying to convince for real... 😂

If you’re happy with your cars, go enjoy them.

Originally Posted by abiazis

The above by smiles11 is nominated for post of the week on 992 GT3 versus 991.2 GT3..........and the 992 may be the last of..........again...........) Great go-to market marketing by Porsche.......

Originally Posted by Drifting

Like many of you, I was very excited to see the sneak reveal of the 992 GT3 this week, and I enjoyed the Catchpole/Harris videos with AP. As a very pleased 991.2 GT3 owner, I'm not than enthused about the 992.1 GT3, for one major reason. It's now an RS.

The Porsche RS models have always been amazing cars, and I respect them, and have enjoyed taking rides in them with my friends who own them as they are the absolute business on a track and fantastic to drive. However, for 20 years Porsche has always had both GT3 and RS models, because some of their customers wanted a car that was ready for the track but still streetable, while some of their other customers preferred a car that was barely streetable, and extremely track focused, the RS. Nothing wrong with that. However, that distinction is now rather blurred with the 992 GT3, because the 992.1 GT3 was designed with several features that used to be RS only.

1- more extreme wing design that only looks in place on the track, not driving on the street
2- A larger car with lots of fancy weight loss features to try to obscure the fact that is a bigger car, but it is still unfortunately larger without major weight loss improvements. The 997 RSs used to weigh noticeably less than the 997 GT3s, but with the 991 generation and now the 992 generation, the best we can hope for is a larger car with a very similar weight as its predecessor, (because the 992 GT3 it is a larger car like a 991 GT3 to the 991RS, and the 991 RSs weigh basically the same as the 991 GT3s)
3- Performance improvements that are mainly suspension and downforce, without noticeable power increases. The 992 GT3 will have a great ring time, but outside of the track, I doubt that mere mortals will appreciate most of the driving differences while on regular roads. Again very similar to the differences between a 991.2 GT3 and a 991.2 RS.
4- Weight loss features that sound fancy but only drop just a few pounds and make the car really loud and likely unsuitable for a weekend trip. (lightweight glass, even more interior sound insulation removed).
5- Cosmetic design that is so focused on downforce that it looks like an entirely different car from a Carrera, so it no longer looks like a 911 based sports car that is also ready for the track, but now visually resembles an extreme track car that is also street legal.
6- lots of exposed unpainted plastic/metal, I.e. the entire bottom half of the front and entire bottom half of the rear 992.1 GT3, and the exposed metal swan wing supports. Both would be fitting on an RSR or an RS, not on a GT3.

There is nothing wrong with 1-6, and they cause the RS to look and drive like a bad *** track car that happens to be street legal.

But that's not what a GT3 is supposed to be, and I have no interest in a 992 GT3 as a result. I will keep and drive my 991.2 GT3 for another 8 years and I'll wait to see what happens with the 994 GT3.

Originally Posted by Drifting

The purpose of this internet board is to discuss all things porsche, good and bad. People share their opinions and they don't always agree. Sometimes you learn something new, sometimes you don't. That is life. No much different than discussing the NFL, and if I happen to mention that the Patriots now suck, then some guys will man up and discuss the pros and cons of what Belichik is currently doing, while the bandwagon Patriot fans who can't handle any disparaging words about the team will go pout and cry in a corner.

If someone can't handle discussing both the good and bad of Porsche (because not everything Porsche does is perfect), then they shouldn't log onto Rennlist. Your choice.

Originally Posted by Damage

I’ll wait for the 992.2 RS. By then it’ll probably look like an RSR.