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That seems like a steal these days. Hopefully things are able to stabilize sooner rather than later, I want to add a .1 or .2 C2S to the garage but not for 90k+
Got this DME report from a very nicely-specced 991.1 MT that was CPOd just 1500 miles back and now has around 12k miles. (Sorry for the picture quality - the best I got from the seller.)
Does anyone know if range 4 over revs affect CPO warranty? In general, I assume ranges 1-3 are fine but range 4 not much?
In general, I assume ranges 1-3 are fine but range 4 not much?
My understanding is =< 3 is fine, as '3' is hitting the rev limiter. Time in four or above indicates a money shift. For the 911s I've owned, I've had hours in 1,2, and 3 but always zero four and above.
Looks like this car had a single mistake shift relatively early on in its life, at exactly 319.28hrs ago, out of a total runtime of 425.00 hrs.
As a result, I would have some concerns the car was driven hard, or if not hard, at least by an inexperienced driver early on during the 2,000 mile break-in period - where you are supposed to keep revs varied and avoid getting near redline. As a result this would not be a car I would keep outside of the CPO warranty period.
Last edited by Baron.Eggelbert; 07-13-2021 at 08:36 AM.
My understanding is =< 3 is fine, as '3' is hitting the rev limiter. Time in four or above indicates a money shift. For the 911s I've owned, I've had hours in 1,2, and 3 but always zero four and above.
Looks like this car had a single mistake shift relatively early on in its life, at exactly 319.28hrs ago, out of a total runtime of 425.00 hrs.
As a result, I would have some concerns the car was driven hard, or if not hard, at least by an inexperienced driver early on during the 2,000 mile break-in period - where you are supposed to keep revs varied and avoid getting near redline. As a result this would not be a car I would keep outside of the CPO warranty period.
My local dealer took in a 50th Anniversary on trade that I was interested in. The car had 25k miles and a similar DME report. They said they were not able to CPO it because of the DME and I chose to pass on it.
My understanding is =< 3 is fine, as '3' is hitting the rev limiter. Time in four or above indicates a money shift. For the 911s I've owned, I've had hours in 1,2, and 3 but always zero four and above.
Looks like this car had a single mistake shift relatively early on in its life, at exactly 319.28hrs ago, out of a total runtime of 425.00 hrs.
As a result, I would have some concerns the car was driven hard, or if not hard, at least by an inexperienced driver early on during the 2,000 mile break-in period - where you are supposed to keep revs varied and avoid getting near redline. As a result this would not be a car I would keep outside of the CPO warranty period.
Can someone clarify this for me: the DME says the incident occurred at 319.28 out of 425. Does that say it occurred 105 hours ago or 295 hours ago? Thanks in advance!
@grigory — It is my understanding that over revs in 4 will not void existing CPO warranty. Just prevent a dealership issuing a CPO warranty for a car that is being sold (with some known exceptions that have been approved for CPO with over revs in 4).
And yes, it was ~100 hours ago (out of 425 hours with 12,000 miles currently) so it was not during break-in period but obviously still not good.
I thought it was hours elapsed since occurrence but I stand corrected. But then, on the flip side, you would want more hours to have elapsed from the event to rule out issues.
I'm a little confused regarding your CPO question. You said the car was just CPOed within the last 1500 miles. Porsche would have been aware of the over-revs at that time but still CPOed it, right?
Last edited by Baron.Eggelbert; 07-13-2021 at 08:05 PM.
Okay, so I'm hesitant to post this because there's a non-zero chance I try to get this car even though it's $10k above by budget, but it's the very definition of "fully loaded."
Can someone confirm for me that his price isn't that insane, even in this crazy market, for a 24k-mile loaded C4S with PCCB, Burmester, Natural Leather and 18-way seats? What's the long term value of these rare-in-combination options?
What would this kind of car sell for before the last year+ of price spikes?
07-08-2021, 06:12 PM
