Originally Posted by nochain19

Came across this https://www.edhicksimports.com/used/...4f53bb9911.htm

Seems like it has all the right options and attractive price, dealership looks like it has decent reviews as well. Thoughts?

Originally Posted by nochain19

Came across this https://www.edhicksimports.com/used/...4f53bb9911.htm

Seems like it has all the right options and attractive price, dealership looks like it has decent reviews as well. Thoughts?

Originally Posted by rennedescartes

Hello all -

I'm new to this forum (have been obsessively reading this thread for a few weeks though!)

I am looking to get into a 911 this spring (April/May most likely) and had a few questions about cost...

I'd like to be in the <$65k range, though could stretch up to $70k for the right car. I'm mostly wondering if that is even reasonable for a late 991.1 or early 991.2, or if I should look at 981 S/GTS instead?
This would be my first Porsche (Coming from a B8.5 S4)
I'd be looking for a modestly optioned C2:
SC - required
7MT - required
PASM - required
LCA - required ( can't go back to no blind-spot monitors haha )
PSE - want
PTV - want
Premium package - want

Is this something attainable in my price range? I'm ok with reasonable mileage (9k/year or so is no problem) and I'm flexible on colors.
Judging by Porsche's 'pre-owned' database it looks like it would be hard to find what I'm looking for, but I don't have a good feel for how much one could negotiate off the list prices on there, as they seem absurdly high for some (90% of MSRP for a 3year old car + 20k miles??)

I also really like 981s, so I would be happy to end up in one of those instead if a 991 is out of my budget... Just trying to get some guidance!

Originally Posted by visitador

You better remove LCA from required if shopping for a 991.1. I have yet to see one

Originally Posted by rennedescartes

Hello all -

I'm new to this forum (have been obsessively reading this thread for a few weeks though!)

I am looking to get into a 911 this spring (April/May most likely) and had a few questions about cost...

I'd like to be in the <$65k range, though could stretch up to $70k for the right car. I'm mostly wondering if that is even reasonable for a late 991.1 or early 991.2, or if I should look at 981 S/GTS instead?
This would be my first Porsche (Coming from a B8.5 S4)
I'd be looking for a modestly optioned C2:
SC - required
7MT - required
PASM - required
Park assist (backup camera) - required
PSE - want
PTV - want
Premium package - want

Is this something attainable in my price range? I'm ok with reasonable mileage (9k/year or so is no problem) and I'm flexible on colors.
Judging by Porsche's 'pre-owned' database it looks like it would be hard to find what I'm looking for, but I don't have a good feel for how much one could negotiate off the list prices on there, as they seem absurdly high for some (90% of MSRP for a 3year old car + 20k miles??)

I also really like 981s, so I would be happy to end up in one of those instead if a 991 is out of my budget... Just trying to get some guidance!

Originally Posted by rennedescartes

Hello all -

I'm new to this forum (have been obsessively reading this thread for a few weeks though!)

I am looking to get into a 911 this spring (April/May most likely) and had a few questions about cost...

I'd like to be in the <$65k range, though could stretch up to $70k for the right car. I'm mostly wondering if that is even reasonable for a late 991.1 or early 991.2, or if I should look at 981 S/GTS instead?
This would be my first Porsche (Coming from a B8.5 S4)
I'd be looking for a modestly optioned C2:
SC - required
7MT - required
PASM - required
Park assist (backup camera) - required
PSE - want
PTV - want
Premium package - want

Is this something attainable in my price range? I'm ok with reasonable mileage (9k/year or so is no problem) and I'm flexible on colors.
Judging by Porsche's 'pre-owned' database it looks like it would be hard to find what I'm looking for, but I don't have a good feel for how much one could negotiate off the list prices on there, as they seem absurdly high for some (90% of MSRP for a 3year old car + 20k miles??)

I also really like 981s, so I would be happy to end up in one of those instead if a 991 is out of my budget... Just trying to get some guidance!

Originally Posted by rennedescartes

I am looking to get into a 911 this spring
...could stretch up to $70k for the right car.
...[is] that reasonable for a late 991.1 or early 991.2...

Originally Posted by pfbz

Your biggest challenge? Manuals are much harder to find... Not necessarily worth more or more expensive, but with 90%+ of 991s optioned with PDK, finding a specific option/color combination in a manual is much more difficult.

But apart from your very specific list of options, it isn't difficult to find a HOT 991.1 in that price range.

Not so much with a .2... On the 991.2, you will likely be limited to base (not S) and even with a base, very few are as low as $70K yet.

Personally, if you are getting up to the low seventies, I personally would ABSOLUTELY go for a base .2 in a second vs. a .1 S of any option combination. The power is amazing even on the base, the tunability even more amazing! It will destroy a .1 S in performance. Cobb tune it and you will be ~430hp.

On your option musts, why Sport Chrono? I agree that it is a *must* on a PDK car for the Sport+ pdk mode, but on a manual, it really is just a useless dash timer and dynamic engine mounts and auto-blip (though not on some 2012 991.1 manuals). The dynamic mounts are nice, though pricey when they fail and certainly IMHO not a must-have, so is it the auto-blip you are after? It is cool, and though loved by many, hated by many as well!

Originally Posted by rennedescartes

Hmmm I've gone back and forth on the SC a lot - I actually prefer no auto-blip, but my understanding was that it also has improved performance and throttle response. Is that mostly marketing nonsense? If so, that would definitely make it easier to find a good car.

Originally Posted by pfbz

Huge difference in PDK shift strategy... Not likely going to notice any throttle response difference with a manual. Zero performance bump on a .1.

I think SC on the .2 will give you a few seconds of over-boost since they became Turbos. Again, the .2 is a different league performance wise.

Originally Posted by Ivyplaya01

my 997 manual had huge throttle response difference with sport chrono on vs off. Not sure about the comparison to 991s. I would have hated my 997 c4s without sport chrono.

also, 991.1 vs .2, big difference between if you like turbo engines vs NA engines. I chose my .1 because I wanted to avoid turbos.

then again I would never kick a turbo s out of my garage. Lol

Originally Posted by pfbz

Remember that the 997.1 only had sport mode if you got SC. All 991.1 have sport mode, with or without SC, but they added a sport plus mode. I