Nah they aren't required, you can get all that from a crank position sensor. Tons of other engines do it. BMW simply installs these so they can fail so they can charge their customers for it. There's no other way this can be interpreted, it's so obvious.

 

Unlike Porsche VTS BS. BMW E46 cam position sensors (intake and exhaust) are require for double vanos to function properly. It's completely different from crank position sensor. I replaced both intake and exhaust cam position sensors on E46. Intake side took about 30 minutes and exhaust side took about 5 minutes to replace. They are easy peasy job. And parts are pretty cheap it was less than $40 for exhaust side I forgot how much I paid for intake side. BWM didn't install that magnetic sensors to rip off the customers. They usually wear out around 100k miles.

 

See you're just drinking the koolaid, I've run engines without cam sensors so obviously they aren't necessary. I didn't want them, but BMW put them in there anyways so they can fail and they can charge me money.

 

I didn't drink koolaid you are. Yes, car will run but they are necessary for double vanos and fuel injectors to function properly. If you remove sensor completely you'll lose oil like there is no tomorrow. So don't say you completely remove the sensors and ran the engine. Not only BMW basically every modern engines have camshaft position sensors in each bank INCLUDE IN YOUR 991. PART 991-606-106-10.
A modern electronically controlled engine has at least one position sensor per camshaft . If you have an economy inline four cylinder engine, you probably have one camshaft and one position sensor. Don't spread BS.

 

 

Are you telling me that I'm crazy for extrapolating based on my personal opinions and lack of understanding of how something works?!

 

asellus, Please stop spreading BS, its counter productive to the site

 

He isnt spreading BS, more like creating a metaphor.

Dollars to donuts he is not going to remove sensors from his 911.

bottomline: let us wait for the data to accumulate before making judgement on VTS.

 

found the sane person

 

Definitely not sane, but willing to see the facts as they arise.

I am not happy that this may be a part that fails at a higher than anticipated rate.

The next few years will hopefully bring some clarity.

 

Quagmire

 

Well it looks like I’m the next victim on here of the VTS failure…. I have a 2017 Cayenne S that is my wife’s daily…. I was using it yesterday to run some errands before I had to go to work (as I recently hydroplaned and impaled my daily… a 2017 Carrera 2S Cab… into a steel guardrail during a recent thunderstorm) 😩😭… and the car was starting for a second and then dying. Over and over again. . Anyway, I had the car towed to a local Indy mechanic that does great work…. He messaged me tonight that he scanned the codes and came up with the VTS failure…. He must have googled it and found this thread and sent it to me. He’s suggesting getting the car towed to the Porsche dealership for repair in this instance. I hope they will be able to get this resolved asap as we are in the process of moving and we need the car to pull the trailer to move a bunch of our crap to the new house over the next 3 weeks. 😕
Hopefully I get my replacement daily soon…( a 2014 Audi RS5) as now we are down two daily vehicles and I’m having to drive my Lotus Elise to work!😂 I REALLY wanted another 911 now (found a 2017 Targa 4 GTS I really wanted and almost bought) but decided to save $100k for now and wait a year or two until these crazy high prices come down some. 🙁

 

thx for reporting and please let us know the results.

 

All the failures listed here, has anyone had to pay for the repair?

 

asellus is working this interface pretty hard - not sure why, given the circumstances, though.

I'm not thinking the cam position sensor reference works well to make his point.