No need to worry, for $600 in labor the dash was not removed

 

I want to know why this isn't covered by Porsche whether or not a warranty is in place. This is the real issue. If this unit is dead because it's "outdated" or "obsolete" and has not failed, they are responsible and not the purchaser of the vehicle. The idea that 3G was not going to work in the future was known. This is an issue for all vehicles moving forward. If the unit is not able to communicate, that should not prevent an owner determining they no longer need the service and desire to still drive their vehicle without its functionality. This component is not part and parcel of the operation of a motor or other systems of a mechanical nature.

 

You answered your own question right here. The unit is dead because of a failure.

Further, the 4G VTS module replacement is done for free if you're a connect subscriber (which is how this module is used...) regardless of module failure.

 

So it’s solely used for Connect and it disables the car? If you are not subscriber and it disables your car you pay? Please educate me/us. I’ve been asking what exactly this thing is for and what it does but never received an answer until
now.

 

so if I’m not a Connect subscriber why do I need this thing, why does it disable my car, and why do I have to pay for it to be fixed?

 

Porsche-tortion!

Have you never optioned a new order Porsche before?

 

Huh?

 

These questions (and more!) have been answered numerous times already. Please refer to those answers and, if still confused, please indicate where the answers stopped making sense.

 

Not sure where or what you're referring to, but they haven't been answered in this thread.

 

It was a joke, but with that said, Porsche is the master of ticky-tack fees for everything.

 

I see.

Please reread the thread, I assure you they have been answered. You may have missed the posts. This thread has multiple pages you will need to click through.

If for some reason you still have trouble finding it, please contact your local Porsche dealership so they may further assist you.

 

Come on man. I posted in the first two pages and have been following from day one. I actually came across this issue on another forum before it was even a thread topic here because people were reporting their 2021 cars were dead and had to be towed. I've missed nothing. Nothing has been answered anywhere. Even those who have had their car disabled do not really know why other than they had the thing replaced or reprogrammed. Most if not all were not subscribers to Connect. The following is your statement "Further, the 4G VTS module replacement is done for free if you're a connect subscriber (which is how this module is used...) regardless of module failure." I asked why would this disable my car if I'm not a subscriber to Connect. You never answered. You simply suggested it's a faulty module, but don't say why the module would disable a car if not subscribed to a service this module services.

 

The module is designed to disable the car under certain parameters (theft and Connect subscription). If faulty, it can disable the car regardless of whether the parameters are met. A broken part won't give a rat's a$$ about whether the car is actually stolen or if you are a Connect subscriber or not.

 

Exactly, which is why I used the phrase "engineered single point of failure" earlier. That's what it is.

 

Y'know what, I have an hour or so before people on the west coast wake up. Let's pick apart your posts here.

False. Thinking things like this leads to dangerous assumptions like..

... this. Thanks, Dunning-Kruger effect. This is also false.

Correct!


I'm assuming by the bold portion this is the single thing you're focusing on, ignoring everything else. My bad, I should have left that information out, as it is clearly confusing. One of the features of the Connect subscription is security. Because, as mentioned, the VTS module is part of the immobilizer system in this vehicle.


False. See post #99 where it's explained that it's part of the immobilizer network. There's even some bolded words in there to help you find the parts that matter. An entire section of that post is a direct response to your question of "what exactly is happening." Like I said, read the thread.


True, but...

Wildly false. Please, read the thread. The questions you keep asking have been answered numerous times, now.

Because it's standard equipment to the vehicle and part of the immobilizer network. Without it the car will not start.

You may ask "why is it there if I didn't buy it" -- that's how standard equipment works. For example, in 2001 BMW put in a whole wiring harness for a cellphone system in one of their cars regardless of whether or not you bought that system. Why? Because it's easier if a customer later wants to activate that service. Same with the VTS. It's creating a very simple option for the owner to change their mind and gain what Porsche thought would be a high value service.

It is part of the immobilizer network and without it the car will not start. See post #99 where this has already been explained.

Fixed, as in "it's broken, please replace it, Porsche. wait, why are you charging me!?" If I had to guess it's because your car is out of warranty. Just like how BMW won't fix the head gasket on my 1992 BMW.

Assuming that you're probably asking this because you want free stuff like the Connect subscribers get? They get the 4G module replacement for free because they are subscribing to a service that would otherwise be interrupted due to factors outside of Porsche's control, so it is a good will gesture to offer the replacement for free for those individuals. For people like you, who presumably do not subscribe to this service, there is no reason for the upgrade and as such if you wanted to upgrade it, you'd have to pay for it. This is a really long line, so take your time to really read it.