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Old 01-16-2021, 11:49 AM
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I decided it was time to replace my 2016 Shelby GT350R. It’s been an incredible joy to own for 4.5 years but I was ready to move on to a new experience.

After much debate, AutoTempest searching, and lots of drive homework, I'm getting a 2019 Porsche Carrera T with ~5000 miles. I’m very excited to be part of this club!

The Carrera T speaks to me for a few reasons: I loved my last Porsche experience with a 987.1 Cayman S. After the GT350R I wanted something more lithe. I also love the idea of it being the 991's swansong and one of the last "special" narrow-bodied 911s. It's exactly as I'd have configured it if I did it myself. I don't want any option that adds weight and isn't performance/experience enhancing, and that's what I found with this exact car. It's the perfect enthusiast configuration—a massive thanks to the original owner!

BASE 911 Carrera T
G1 Guards Red
WI Standard Interior in Black/Guards Red with Sport-Tex Seat Centers i.c.w. Carrera T Interior Package
090 Carrera T Interior Package
470 Rear Axle Steering
509 Fire Extinguisher
581 Luggage net in passenger footwell
583 Smoking package
603 Bi-Xenon Headlights with Porsche Dynamic Light System
EKL GT Sport Steering Wheel and Manual Gear Lever in Alcantara®
P11 Full bucket seats
QH1 Voice Control
QR5 Sport Chrono Package
XGN Sport Chrono Stopwatch Dial in Guards Red

Manual and Rear Axle Steering were musts for me. No axle lift, no lane change assist, no sunroof, no keyless entry (which apparently weighs a ton), no adaptive cruise, no leather air vent slats, no upgraded radio with heavy subwoofer--just as I wanted. My heart wants PCCBs, but my head likes steel becuase this car will absolutely be tracked. Often.

The carbon buckets seats are awesome, but I intend to add back seats—as I did on the GT350R—until my kid is older (hence my inquiry in this thread). Since the carbon seats prevent access to the back I plan to source a folding passenger seat. Y’all might think that’s crazy, but I suspect that I’ll have this car for a long time and want to enjoy it as a family, and eventually as a couple when the kiddo is older and doesn’t want to be seen with us!

I had a great experience with Steven Youhana at Beachwood Porsche. Buying states away is always a bit nerve wracking, but Steven and the Steinel guys who did the PPI put any concern to rest. Hopefully it’ll be in my garage by next weekend.




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Old 01-16-2021, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by I-Man

I had a great experience with Steven Youhana at Beachwood Porsche. Buying states away is always a bit nerve wracking, but Steven and the Steinel guys who did the PPI put any concern to rest. Hopefully it’ll be in my garage by next weekend.
Looks great. I actually saw this come into their inventory; you hopped on it quick! Steve sold me my T as well a few months ago. Enjoy!
Old 01-16-2021, 01:21 PM
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^^^ Congrats, I-Man!!

Got my T new in April 18 and have done nearly 31k miles in it. Loving it!

Wishing you many happy miles/smiles!
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Old 01-16-2021, 01:24 PM
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Treated my T to a very thorough wash & valet this week.










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Old 01-16-2021, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by I-Man
...this car will absolutely be tracked. Often.
Red hawt. Very cool. Welcome aboard. Your spec is great. My only suggestion - if tracking often is your thing - is upgrading your brakes to six piston (I went with AP Racing - see link... let me know if you have questions). The stock p-zeros aren't great either. Otherwise, you will love it.

https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1184...l#post16464619

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Old 01-16-2021, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackOptic
Red hawt. Very cool. Welcome aboard. Your spec is great. My only suggestion - if tracking often is your thing - is upgrading your brakes to six piston (I went with AP Racing - see link... let me know if you have questions). The stock p-zeros aren't great either. Otherwise, you will love it.

https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1184...l#post16464619
I was going to say the same thing! I did Brembo's BBK on mine but I know AP Racing are awesome too. Stock brakes do not last on track if you are at all experienced and want to go fast.

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Originally Posted by Wing Commander
Treated my T to a very thorough wash & valet this wee
Understatement!

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Old 01-17-2021, 12:24 AM
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I’m sure the Queen herself would approve!
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Old 01-17-2021, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by I-Man
I decided it was time to replace my 2016 Shelby GT350R. It’s been an incredible joy to own for 4.5 years but I was ready to move on to a new experience.

After much debate, AutoTempest searching, and lots of drive homework, I'm getting a 2019 Porsche Carrera T with ~5000 miles. I’m very excited to be part of this club!

The Carrera T speaks to me for a few reasons: I loved my last Porsche experience with a 987.1 Cayman S. After the GT350R I wanted something more lithe. I also love the idea of it being the 991's swansong and one of the last "special" narrow-bodied 911s. It's exactly as I'd have configured it if I did it myself. I don't want any option that adds weight and isn't performance/experience enhancing, and that's what I found with this exact car. It's the perfect enthusiast configuration—a massive thanks to the original owner!

BASE 911 Carrera T
G1 Guards Red
WI Standard Interior in Black/Guards Red with Sport-Tex Seat Centers i.c.w. Carrera T Interior Package
090 Carrera T Interior Package
470 Rear Axle Steering
509 Fire Extinguisher
581 Luggage net in passenger footwell
583 Smoking package
603 Bi-Xenon Headlights with Porsche Dynamic Light System
EKL GT Sport Steering Wheel and Manual Gear Lever in Alcantara®
P11 Full bucket seats
QH1 Voice Control
QR5 Sport Chrono Package
XGN Sport Chrono Stopwatch Dial in Guards Red

Manual and Rear Axle Steering were musts for me. No axle lift, no lane change assist, no sunroof, no keyless entry (which apparently weighs a ton), no adaptive cruise, no leather air vent slats, no upgraded radio with heavy subwoofer--just as I wanted. My heart wants PCCBs, but my head likes steel becuase this car will absolutely be tracked. Often.

The carbon buckets seats are awesome, but I intend to add back seats—as I did on the GT350R—until my kid is older (hence my inquiry in this thread). Since the carbon seats prevent access to the back I plan to source a folding passenger seat. Y’all might think that’s crazy, but I suspect that I’ll have this car for a long time and want to enjoy it as a family, and eventually as a couple when the kiddo is older and doesn’t want to be seen with us!
That is really an amazing find. Congratulations on picking it up! As others have mentioned, brakes are a great and recommended upgrade for track use. The 3.0L turbo engine is highly tunable should you desire to improve the performance and sound. The sound of the GT350R is hard to beat, but the 991.2 can be modified to sound pretty good.
Old 01-17-2021, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 737gdog
I’m sure the Queen herself would approve!


But at nearly 31k miles, certainly no garage queen!
Old 01-18-2021, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by spyderbret
I was going to say the same thing! I did Brembo's BBK on mine but I know AP Racing are awesome too. Stock brakes do not last on track if you are at all experienced and want to go fast.
Do you have a parts list? I am seriously considering doing this.
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Old 01-21-2021, 03:17 PM
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Question for you guys...what are '18 T's going for in the marketplace? I love my car but I'm always drawn to "what's next?". I inquired on a 991.2 GT3, as well as a 992S, and the trade-in value for my car was less than I expected ($80k). Is that a realistic number or if I were to move forward, am I better off selling privately. My car is in great shape (PPF over 80%, 8900 miles, 2 sets of wheels & tires, decent options but not crazy). It seems like supply and demand favors the seller right now. Just wondering, for those of you that have recently purchased, where are you from a numbers perspective?
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Old 01-21-2021, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Nthusiast
Question for you guys...what are '18 T's going for in the marketplace? I love my car but I'm always drawn to "what's next?". I inquired on a 991.2 GT3, as well as a 992S, and the trade-in value for my car was less than I expected ($80k). Is that a realistic number or if I were to move forward, am I better off selling privately. My car is in great shape (PPF over 80%, 8900 miles, 2 sets of wheels & tires, decent options but not crazy). It seems like supply and demand favors the seller right now. Just wondering, for those of you that have recently purchased, where are you from a numbers perspective?
They are all over the place honestly. There is a definite premium for manual cars due to the short shifter / gearing / LSD. My dealer gave me a price of $81k for my car with 8,000 miles ('18 T manual 116k sticker).

I think you could get about $92k for it right now, with the market the way it's going. I would list on PCA and the usual websites - looking around on those sites has shown that the T's are almost all listed at $90k or above.

Good luck.
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Old 01-21-2021, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Nthusiast
Question for you guys...what are '18 T's going for in the marketplace? I love my car but I'm always drawn to "what's next?". I inquired on a 991.2 GT3, as well as a 992S, and the trade-in value for my car was less than I expected ($80k). Is that a realistic number or if I were to move forward, am I better off selling privately. My car is in great shape (PPF over 80%, 8900 miles, 2 sets of wheels & tires, decent options but not crazy). It seems like supply and demand favors the seller right now. Just wondering, for those of you that have recently purchased, where are you from a numbers perspective?
What's your VIN? Options? Manual?

Manual and options will drive the price even more than mileage.
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Old 01-21-2021, 04:09 PM
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I don't have the VIN handy but it is a manual and it's not overly optioned...sofas, Bose, Rear wheel steering, FAL, and I'm sure I'm missing a few other things. I really have no reason to sell (it really is an amazing car) other than satisfying the quest for whatever is next.

If cars are going for around $90+ on the private market, I'd be better off going that route because it will beat the tax savings I would have on the trade in.


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