Thou shall not throw stones!
#16
Driving across the Canada/US border with my car gift wrapped in blue painters tape... well that is a video I think would go viral. I can just about hear the sound of the rubber glove snapping in the opening scene!
#17
They made a video for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq77_21ZecE
I bet the blue tape guys could make a nice counter video. haha
For a one way trip to ppf installer I would still go with blue tape.
#18
I never thought of painter's tape... and I'll probably try it. But in all honesty, I am hesitant about coming across the border with a 911 all taped up. It is always serious business crossing for work, let alone drawing attention to yourself. This could be interesting. I might be posting a request for legal help after this one. I'll definitely post pictures!
#19
Just a suggestion, put blue painters tape on first then a layer of duct tape, yeah it looks ugly but it 4-6 mils thick and will offer much better protection than the only the blue tape. The layering allows the use of the thicker duct tape and the ease of removal due to the blue painters tape. There is also an option of Xpel Trac tape? I have to deal with this again in a couple days as my wife's new M4 arrives at the dealer.
#20
Protective film is OK for the paint. I have it The tires do pick up lots of tiny pebbles and gravel. Your avatar shows your car parked on a shoulder which looks like gravel. Plus, the Pzeros will be as hard as rocks in cold weather so can't be thier stickiness. They are terrible tires.
I am more bothered by the sound of the tiny stones bouncing off the wheel wells. It seems they have no protection.
Best to park your freshly-detailed 911 in the garage and take pictures of it. Too fragile to drive on anything except perfectly smooth asphalt.
I am more bothered by the sound of the tiny stones bouncing off the wheel wells. It seems they have no protection.
Best to park your freshly-detailed 911 in the garage and take pictures of it. Too fragile to drive on anything except perfectly smooth asphalt.
#21
If you are constantly driving on gravel roads, rock chips will be the least of your problems. Suggest you obtain a solution to protect the water cooling fan slats in front of the front wheels.
#22
The first hundred yards of driving my new Porsche were consumed with wondering what the heck was happening to my car as I listened to the stones hitting the wheel wells from the tires. It was most unnerving and distracting. I stopped just outside the dealership and noticed the new Pirelli's were now full of tiny stones. They weren't just in the grooves, but also embedded in the compound. Yes, I was warned about this happening, but I didn't understand how bad it could be. I am not normally that precious, so I didn't think the sand blasting was going to bother me. Well, it does. A lot. These tires pick up everything.
I took the front tire off and found some souvenirs! Stones everywhere. Little tiny ones neatly packed on top of every surface... clinging on for dear life! I guess the big ones just fling themselves at the sides of the car. I have some pretty deep scars now; on my paint and my heart. I'm now hunting for mud flaps. Inconspicuous ones...
I also feel like shrink wrapping the car in plastic wrap and driving South to Maine/Massachusetts to get PPF when the Nor'easters end. Is their a temporary film I could DIY to get me through a long road trip to an installer?
Here is a picture of the front suspension. Just one of many locations where stow-away rocks are waiting to fly out:
I took the front tire off and found some souvenirs! Stones everywhere. Little tiny ones neatly packed on top of every surface... clinging on for dear life! I guess the big ones just fling themselves at the sides of the car. I have some pretty deep scars now; on my paint and my heart. I'm now hunting for mud flaps. Inconspicuous ones...
I also feel like shrink wrapping the car in plastic wrap and driving South to Maine/Massachusetts to get PPF when the Nor'easters end. Is their a temporary film I could DIY to get me through a long road trip to an installer?
Here is a picture of the front suspension. Just one of many locations where stow-away rocks are waiting to fly out:
#23
I too got off to a rocky start with my 17 C2S, just from the occasional gravel roads around town.
I you really want to see what a rock-magnet these cars are, try unscrewing the fender liners and see what they're holding. They're like stone-chip maracas. I posted about this last year if you're curious: https://rennlist.com/forums/991/9926...der-pants.html
I you really want to see what a rock-magnet these cars are, try unscrewing the fender liners and see what they're holding. They're like stone-chip maracas. I posted about this last year if you're curious: https://rennlist.com/forums/991/9926...der-pants.html
#24
The picture (back a couple of posts) showing the tire with micro-pebbles embedded in the compound is what I and everyone else here with Pirelli/Michelin-like soft compound tires are picking up. The accumulation on the suspension is a bit shocking; but not unreasonable considering what I hear. I hope it is ok. We don't have an option. I just had to check it out and take a look for myself.
However, now I am wondering if these stones will get into the calipers? Could that happen?
#25
I never thought of painter's tape... and I'll probably try it. But in all honesty, I am hesitant about coming across the border with a 911 all taped up. It is always serious business crossing for work, let alone drawing attention to yourself. This could be interesting. I might be posting a request for legal help after this one. I'll definitely post pictures!
#26
Since it looks like you might have to deal with pebbles a lot, there is one other place that pebbles are known to cause a problem and the symptom it isn't initially intuitive. If you ever hear one of the two cooling fans in the front start running full blast even at idle you probably have a pebble jamming the other fan. You can hear the roar and feel the air blasting out of one wheel well and then you'll find no air coming out of the other one. There are posts about it on the 997 and 991 forums.
It has happened to me twice in about 7 years on both a 997 and already on my new 991.2 just last week (Texas uses macadam on some streets, gravel pressed into tar and it doesn't all stay stuck, gah!). The dealers are familiar with this and can normally diagnosis this and fix it. Both times for me the dealer covered it under warranty. Some people have taken care of it themselves, but I gather it won't stop the fans from running oddly until the code gets cleared.
How does this happen? The cooling intakes in the front has exhaust outlets built into the front of the front wheel well. Rocks can be carried around by the tire and tossed forward and down into that. On rare occasions one of those pebbles can jam the fan blade for the intakes. There isn't a lot of room between the blade and its housing. Once the fan controller detects a jammed fan, it turns the other one to full blast to compensate for the potential loss of cooling (so I'm told).
Hopefully you won't get this, but I wanted you to be aware of the symptom if/when you see it.
#27
There must be something wrong with the fender arch design on the 991's. With only 500 miles and only 2 short road trips around Central Oregon High Desert I needed a re-paint on the bottom half of the car. Chips went through the PPF.
#29
I like to drive and really do not want a garage queen for the winter. After talking to a few PCA members here in Bend, OR I found out that the sand ODOT puts on the roads here is from ground down lava stones. So yes it's like sandpaper. I think that if the front fenders had a little more of a fender flare, bigger lip, maybe that would help catch most of the stones. Mud Flaps?? I hope not.