ipse dixit

I think the better comparison would be the Huracan Performante (or maybe even the Evo) than the Aventador. And for either the Performante or Evo, both come in at about 40-50k less than the 720S in terms of MSRP.

And, yes, while the McLaren comes with that fantastic carbon tub and that trick suspension, there's something to be said about that NA V10, bespoke engine from Audi.

tqevo

Lambos are a bit piggy though, but they look and sound better than Mclarens

AllAboutThatP

Both looks and sound are subjective. That being said, I doubt you'd find many who wouldn't agree that the Lambo V10 sounds way better than the McLaren.

However, I like the way the 720S looks better than the Performante, even though I think they both look great.

Waxer

I was told by my local Mac dealer (50 minutes away) that it was a requirement to bring the car in for service EVERY year and the cost was $2000.00. Only with the annual service of $2000 could I continue my $4000 a year warranty. Was about to buy a 650 Spider. Then walked over the warranty pricing.

McLaren hasn't upset me. I was disappointed by what i viewed to be a money grab for a very pricey warranty and expensive mandatory annual service and if I brought my Mac to the track it had to be inspected again.

I'm sure Ferrari extended warranty costs are pricey. They are "Ferrari". No surprise there. Still over priced imho and they can charge it because they are "Ferrari". Lambo, not sure of what their warranty costs are but just because one manufacturer is bending over their customers that doesn't mean that's a business model to follow. Perhaps the better idea would be not to follow it.

Porsches have a reputation for reliability. I don't have to bring my RS to the dealer before and after for a track colonoscopy and the attendant bill. Porsche will sell extended warranties on CPO cars for 8 to 10 years at around $6000.00. Why? They have confidence in the reliability and durability of their vehicles and their warranty offerings signal that confidence. That makes me confident.

Mac has sophisticated suspension? Ok. So? How often does suspension need servicing? Porsches are very well engineered cars and technical.

There is no way an extended warranty on a reliable well engineered car used primarily for weekend use justifies $4000 a year in warranty expense in my mind and $2000 a year just for a looksie exam to qualify to continue paying them $4000 a year.

If Mac reduced the pricing on their warranties mho is they would signal more confidence in their product and they should stop with the new models every other month. Clearly something is responsible for their abysmal resale values and lets assume it has nothing to do with the cars themselves which appears that in later years many love their Macs. Ok. Fine.

Oh and yes, I am well aware of the title to the thread and its placement square in the GT3RS forum. Your interpretation as to who should be posting and what should be posted is your interpretation. Not mine. Apparently others have posted grips too and this threads placement where it is clearly invites non Mac owners to the fray.

Drifting

I think the Mclarens are overpriced at MSRP............if they continue to come out with a new model every other month and continue to announce more cars of a previous limited series....like the 675LT debacle.

If Ferrari produced more cars and more different models, then their resale prices would also drop significantly.

I think the Mclaren tech justifies the current MSRP, but only if they develop a consistent sales model of a certain number of cars and a certain type of car and stick to it, so buyers aren't constantly surprised by a new model that supersedes a brand new 400K car, within 3 months after they purchased it.

I think Mclaren makes great, high tech cars, and I'm glad they are pushing Porsche, lambo, and Ferrari. But since I'm not a billionaire, I wouldn't feel safe buying a Mclaren, in the same way that I would if I purchased a Ferrari, both in resale value, and in the cost of the warranty, which including the Mclaren service/inspection costs, is more than Ferrari!

sechsgang

You do need to need to get a bit giddy with it to really start loving the car. Also, you HAVE to have it in sport or track mode with ESC dyn sport on for it to be lively and rock...thats one thing I didn't need to change in my 650 or 675 s to have a blast with FYI, so possibly a part. The 675 is just so brutally fast too, its a little more720 speed vs buzzy revvy gt3 ish of the 600lt

stanwine

You have made your position clear.
One of the reasons historically there has been very little crossover between owners of Porsche and Ferrari’s (there’s more today) is the very issue you have. If your budget or sensibilities can not accept the costs involved with these manufacturers then they are not for you, we all “get it” that it’s more expensive than a Porsche. I’ve put over $50k in my 550 Maranello in 16 years and 10k miles, that would not happen in a Porsche. However the car I sold when I bought It was a 996 Turbo and for me it was night and day. There are parts on McLaren’s that the cost makes Ferrari seem cheap, that’s why I bought the extended warranty. You can’t really rationalize any 6 figure sports car purchase, it’s just that some are more extreme than others but there all irresponsible purchases if we’re honest.

ipse dixit

Yeah, pretty much spot on.

Buying a Porsche is like buying a suit from Brooks Brothers.

Buying a McLaren or a Ferrari is like getting a Brioni.

Waxer

Fair enough. I’m a Brooks Bro’s guy for sure.

I think if it wasn’t the two headed hydra of abysmal resale and very expensive warranties and service I could stomach one... but both? No thanks. It was a deal breaker for me.

Would like to see one or both remedied.

nolocontendere

here’s the way I see it: if one wants to date a supermodel, you better be ready to shop at Neimans and couture boutiques. If you still want to shop at Kohl’s, that’s fine, but you ain’t gettin a no supermodel. You can still get a nice very pretty girl, and there is honor in that

oh and sure, after a good romp that supermodel may leave you stranded one night. But come on, we are talking about the opportunity to achieve bucket list life-altering experiences here

sp330

Reading this thread really makes me want a Mclaren lol

stanwine

The days of limited depreciation on any car is gone, even Ferrari that held the gold standard lost it after the public offering and subsequent removal of the age old limit on production. Look at the 488 and F12 depreciation, in some cases close to six figures in 2 years.

jgorscak

Mine is Adriana Lima (10 years ago)

Waxer

Hmmm. Just found her waiting for me by the RS at Kohls. Guess based on what you just said I’ll just have to close my eyes and pretend she’s a supermodel. Best the RS could do. Damn.

nolocontendere

nice work! A girl like that deserves to ride shotgun in a 675LT spider. At least a test drive on a nice sunny day to see what she says. Enjoy it while you are all still young and beautiful