GrantG

Right, I think it'll be the more rewarding car to drive. But it is fascinating to watch the Ring times tumble with all the new turbocharged models (both within the brand and outside)...

Hell, a Honda Civic is now 6 sec faster than the original GT3 (was announced to come to US market since this article)...

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...-world-record/

rosenbergendo

M2 Ring time is same as 997.1 GT3. Crazy!

reidry

"Horsepower sells cars, Torque wins races." .... Carroll Shelby

While we could debate the truth in that mantra, 405 ft. lbs. of torque from the 991.2 GTS motor is significant over the 325 ft. lbs. from the 991.1 GT3 motor.

Ryan

Waxer

Agreed. That's why the future of GT cars is tt IMHO and don't be surprised if mid engined.

mass27

+1 on the turbo. It will be interesting to see how many current RS owners embrace this (assuming you can only afford one GT car at one time) or hold onto their NA GT.

Either way, exciting times if you're into cars...

Jrtaylor9

I'm confused: was the 991.1 turbo ring time faster than Gt3 or RS? How could the 991.2 gts ring time be faster than 991.1 turbo if it's a torque argument? I don't know exact figures but I would have guessed the .1 turbo meaningfully out-performs a .2 gts? Then again, my assumption could be dead wrong???

TRAKCAR

Turbo was being held back by suspension setup and tires.

With equal tires its faster than an RS

Jrtaylor9

That, I'm not surprised by. That thing is a hammer.

Chris3963

On some tracks, definitley faster on equal tyres. Indeed, Evo Magazine lapped Anglesey with exactly the same time as the GT3 RS with the Turbo S on PZeros.

Bardman

Ok, there is so much contradictory information on this thread now as to suggest to conspiracy theorists that some of it is deliberate misinformation.

Any thoughts on Porsche spreading different stories in different people's ears to cover for real information leaking?

Manifold

Some thoughts:

- A significant factor in drop in lap times is improvement in tires over the years.

- With the ring lap being in the 7-8 minute range, need to divide differences in ring lap times by a factor of about 3 to 7 (average of about 5) to get lap time differences on more typical shorter tracks with lap times in the 1-2 minute range.

- Assuming factory pro drivers, I think we can assume they're very close to the limits of the cars, so driver isn't much of a factor. But track conditions could affect ring lap times by a few or several seconds.

- Would be interesting to know what the lap times were for these cars if they did two or three ring laps back to back. How long can the tires stay in the sweet spot? Does the car overheat? One glory lap doesn't always tell the full story.

CAlexio

No, I never overstate, just say strictly what I know, and nothing when I don't (which is most of the time).

trip already planned to goodwood in June BC buddy is getting to see preview. But this info is nothing special.. all VIP guys who want a GT3 have already been told schedule for PTS, having to wait to spring 2018 for first window.

Chris3963

Interesting new story in Autocar by Andrew Frankel confirming the 4.0L in the .2 GT3 with a manual option.

Also in the story:

• GT2 RS by end of 2017 with 650hp.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/mo...lat-six-engine

Chris3963

Similar story in Autoexpress with Walter Rohrl credited as the source for the info on the GT3.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/porsche...s-on-the-cards

RSA_27149

^^^ this is awesome if true! We will all know for sure about the 991.2 GT3 soon. Porsche futures are looking brighter with the GT2 and GT4 news as well. The current GT4 is just missing a potent motorsports heart, and if they rectify that...wow