991.2 is 3.8 and RS.2???
11-29-2016, 03:16 AM
#151
If I've taken away even one sale from those scumbags, I've done my job. 
11-29-2016, 03:26 AM
#152
Why are you guys still speculating? The info on the 991.2 GT3 has already been passed down during the dealer meeting a few weeks ago. 4L with 493HP to be released in September 2017. Manual is offered. End of story.
Upcoming Panamera Turbo S will be a 687hp hybrid, to be released in November 2017.
Upcoming Panamera Turbo S will be a 687hp hybrid, to be released in November 2017.
Now, what I'd like to know is if we'll have a LWFW and/or rear diffuser option? Anything you can mention here or via PM to us mere mortals?
11-29-2016, 03:27 AM
#153
One big question in my mind will be if and why 918 owners who got an R would even want to order a .2GT3 other than to try to flip it?
All you 918 owners on here, will you be ordering a .2GT3?
All you 918 owners on here, will you be ordering a .2GT3?
11-29-2016, 11:00 AM
#154
Three Wheelin'
11-29-2016, 12:17 PM
#155
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
One big question in my mind will be if and why 918 owners who got an R would even want to order a .2GT3 other than to try to flip it?
All you 918 owners on here, will you be ordering a .2GT3?
All you 918 owners on here, will you be ordering a .2GT3?
You spec and order one of the first gt3's your dealer has. If, somehow, the market is only MSRP (which we know it won't be), you can always just pass on your allocation when it arrives. It's a FREE option to order one of first GT3's that will hit the road. And most likely get paid to drive it for a few months.
Even if the exercise is completely immaterial to their net worth, 99% of them still like the idea of being paid to own a car or at least owning it for free. Who wouldn't like that?
11-29-2016, 12:25 PM
#156
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DLC coatings can be deposited using a variety of deposition methods such as sputtering, ion beam, cathodic arc, electron beam, lasers and PACVD. NCT deposits our diamond like carbon coatings using our partner The HEF Group’s patented technology combining PVD and PACVD which deposits some of the highest quality, most consistent DLC coatings available to industry today.
This technology allows the DLC coatings to be deposited in large scale production machines without sacrificing film quality. With HEF’s patented technology, we have the ability to deposit PVD layers as well as dense, uniform PACVD layers in the same system. Our process will transition from PVD layers to DLC layers seamlessly producing films that exhibit excellent interlayer adhesion as well as excellent adhesion to the substrate. The PACVD process NCT utilizes will deposit a DLC coating that will have no noticeable effect on your product’s surface finish.
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After the preheat cycle is complete, the process transitions into the ion etching phase where product is bombarded with ions from argon gas to scrub or sputter clean the surface and remove micro oxides. This scrubbing of the surface with ions cleans the surface and improves the adhesion of the coating to the substrate.
After the substrate has been sputter cleaned, the process transitions into the coating phase. If an initial layer (underlayer) is needed to improve the performance of the product in the final use, the high energy sputtering process developed by The HEF Group is used to deposit a dense well adhered smooth underlayer. As the underlayer coating reaches the proper thickness, the process transitions into the DLC coating step which deposits a dense, smooth amorphous carbon hydrogenated(a-C:H) layer onto the product’s surface.
11-29-2016, 12:32 PM
#157
Drifting
Trust me, there are other very special cars that Porsche will be releasing. I will be getting those for sure!
11-29-2016, 01:01 PM
#158
GT2RS was tested with hybrid front axle as others reported. Just like RSR was tested with turbo motor also...pre Lemans Ford and Ferrari running away.
GT3.2 with ECU tuned 3.8 with new exhaust they would call 500hp and the manual is the special sauce.
GT3.2 with ECU tuned 3.8 with new exhaust they would call 500hp and the manual is the special sauce.
11-29-2016, 01:38 PM
#159
Burning Brakes
11-29-2016, 01:51 PM
#160
Nordschleife Master
A 4L in the new .2 GT3 would be a real kick in the pants to the R owners. MHO.
I think a 3.8 with more power through ECU and better aero and MT option is the ticket.
I think a 3.8 with more power through ECU and better aero and MT option is the ticket.
11-29-2016, 02:25 PM
#161
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Sorry, but significantly increasing specific output beyond the current 125 hp per Liter while simultaneously lowering maximum revs is highly unlikely with an ECU tweek...
11-29-2016, 02:31 PM
#162
Remember AP in the original Autocar press release stating the 3.8 was making "well over 475hp"? Adding 15hp with minimal actual changes is possible.
11-29-2016, 02:43 PM
#163
Banned
I think what he meant was that the GT3 at that time was making over 475hp. So in theory. If they quote a higher figure for the future car. They really wouldn't be lying. Given the same hardware.
11-29-2016, 02:56 PM
#164
Race Director
Porsche wants to move past the 3.8 fiasco. They already have the 4.0 and they can de-tune that, if necessary. The 991.1 will be legendary for all the wrong reasons. They rushed to market and we all paid the price.
It does not mean that it is not a great car. They will be replacing engines for years to come. It is risk management; better than another recall. Just play the numbers
It does not mean that it is not a great car. They will be replacing engines for years to come. It is risk management; better than another recall. Just play the numbers
11-29-2016, 02:59 PM
#165
Nordschleife Master
