RSR has bop. Real world has no bop.

 

JimmyD: We shall see. One of us will be saying I told you so. Loser buys.

 

i am also in on the same bet

 

WHY do people keep parroting the 4.2L line?

The factory has NEVER sold a flat six that displaced more than 4.0L.

The factory had the opportunity to introduce a flat six with a swept volume > 4.0L in the new RSR, but they didn't. Why not?

GTE regulations permit forced induction up to 4.0L displacement and natural aspiration up to 5.5L displacement:

Corvette 5.5L NA (Essentially zero in common with LT4)
Porsche 4.0L NA (actually 3,996cc in outgoing car)
Ferrari 3.9L T
Ferrari 4.5L NA (2015 spec GTE Am)
Ford 3.5L T
Aston Martin 4.5L NA

Forget BMW, they got a waiver from IMSA for a car that is definitively NOT GTE legal; car also has a 4.4L turbo V8 which is obviously non-compliant

 

Told by three sources no chance of anything larger than 4.0.

 

K, so would it be reasonable that our current info of a 4.0 Gt3 (more power and torque at lower rpm than the 991.1 Gt3) and a turbo GT2rs aren't mutually exclusive with your new info?
Consider that a chassis like the 991 can't just accept hybrid batteries without major mods.. and when has such a dramatic departure been introduced during a face lift, and not during a full model changeover.?

Or, just for the sake of argument.
Gt3: Can we come up with another example of a NA engine which was made to produce more power and lower rpm without a CC. Displacement increase?

Gt2-3Rs: if it's not turbo, why do all the mules sound muted and have holes in lower rear bumper corners where the intercooler vents go on all turbo Porsche's?

 

One letter explains why you won't see a 4.0 GT3.

R.

 

Good point ^

 

I believe the GT2/3 RS mule we've seen is turbocharged, but that doesn't preclude an NA GT3 RS swansong.

Geneva 2017: 991.2 GT3
Geneva 2018: 991.2 GT2 RS
Geneva 2019: 991.2 GT3 RS 918 VIP Only Edition
Paris 2020: 992 Carrera

^^^ the above is a distinct possibility

Nevertheless, I'll be disappointed if the GT2 RS does not feature a 4.0L turbo. Otherwise they will have left power on the table. Would make a terrific homologation engine too...

 

Dont forget Euro6C homologation
effective (either half amended) September 2017

also from that point onwards
no more lonely dyno homologation

but dyno plus 23 km real road test to pass
emissions homologation...

anything homologated Before Sept 2017 in spite of Euro6C must
get a plate (produced) until Sept. 2019

right in time before September 2017 to homologate whatever you can and produced until Summer 2019?

My guess is
992 Frankfurt September 2019

we know already .2 GT3 .2 RS .2 GT2 RS details

 

My mistake I meant fall 2019 992 introduction. Not far off by any means

 

My God. Seriously. You think we will still have "special" treatment for the 918 guys even into 2019? When will it stop! How about giving others a shot. Christ. Really? A special swan song NA RS just for them. Sheesh. Hate to be selfish here but I hope not. that would suck for everyone else.

 

Customers and dealers alike are frustrated that the 918 customers are gobbling up all the special, limited release cars. But this is strictly a North American phenomenon, and a North American viewpoint, as there is no ROW VIP program per se. So I don't feel that PAG is designing most of these cars just for 918 customers (ok, excepting the R and perhaps some stuff to follow). It's just how it's turning out for the US market in particular, and to some degree the Canadian market. To be clear, I don't blame the 918 customers. But this is the deal that PCNA agreed to. This will continue here more or less until somewhere around 2023, at least for those customers who didn't quickly sell their 918s. So perhaps even the 50th anniversary of the 1973 Carrera RS (assuming this happens, and why not!) may be largely unavailable in North America. We'll just have to get used to it.

 

I will go with the 570 but lambo starts at 237k naked vs 185k naked for the RS not including mark ups. Huracan loses value like a turbo S and all Macs depreciate. Not a problem if they are keepers I always say Drive what ya like. HP does not impressment me vs. overall driving experience. It's all about your tolerance to drop coin for speed, and I joke with my Ferrari and Lambo friends cars that are two years old with 1400 miles. I'll take my GT (:

 

Brand new 2WD Huracan can be had with decent options for $210k 4WD is obviously much more.

I just got my decent optioned 570S for $211k.

I paid around $215k ish for my well optioned PTS RS.