991.2 is 3.8 and RS.2???
11-27-2016, 07:41 PM
#106
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My God. Seriously. You think we will still have "special" treatment for the 918 guys even into 2019? When will it stop!
How about giving others a shot. Christ. Really? A special swan song NA RS just for them. Sheesh. Hate to be selfish here but I hope not. that would suck for everyone else.
How about giving others a shot. Christ. Really? A special swan song NA RS just for them. Sheesh. Hate to be selfish here but I hope not. that would suck for everyone else.Customers and dealers alike are frustrated that the 918 customers are gobbling up all the special, limited release cars. But this is strictly a North American phenomenon, and a North American viewpoint, as there is no ROW VIP program per se. So I don't feel that PAG is designing most of these cars just for 918 customers (ok, excepting the R and perhaps some stuff to follow). It's just how it's turning out for the US market in particular, and to some degree the Canadian market. To be clear, I don't blame the 918 customers. But this is the deal that PCNA agreed to. This will continue here more or less until somewhere around 2023, at least for those customers who didn't quickly sell their 918s. So perhaps even the 50th anniversary of the 1973 Carrera RS (assuming this happens, and why not!) may be largely unavailable in North America. We'll just have to get used to it.
I will go with the 570 but lambo starts at 237k naked vs 185k naked for the RS not including mark ups. Huracan loses value like a turbo S and all Macs depreciate. Not a problem if they are keepers I always say Drive what ya like. HP does not impressment me vs. overall driving experience. It's all about your tolerance to drop coin for speed, and I joke with my Ferrari and Lambo friends cars that are two years old with 1400 miles. I'll take my GT (:
570S priced with options far exceeds GT3 RS MSRP, but in the real world you can get a very nice 570 with delivery miles for less than you can a garage queen RS.
As for Huracan, I meant to specify the 580-2
11-27-2016, 07:45 PM
#107
Nice toys for sure! In ATL you can get a loaded 570S for 219k, out the door I would say 210k vs. the asking.
11-27-2016, 08:10 PM
#108
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4.0 is already pretty slow in a straight line versus the competition near or north of $200k:
991.2 Turbo (S)
Huracan
R8 V10 Plus
488 GTB
570S
All run the quarter well into the 10s and trap around or above 130 MPH. I think the 991.2 GT3 will be quite outgunned in the marketplace too; 2013 (991.1 GT3 intro) vs 2017 (992.2 GT3 intro) - very different world for a variety of reasons. Meanwhile the GT3 is only a mild evolution.
991.2 Turbo (S)
Huracan
R8 V10 Plus
488 GTB
570S
All run the quarter well into the 10s and trap around or above 130 MPH. I think the 991.2 GT3 will be quite outgunned in the marketplace too; 2013 (991.1 GT3 intro) vs 2017 (992.2 GT3 intro) - very different world for a variety of reasons. Meanwhile the GT3 is only a mild evolution.
However the 991 GT3 with an average MSRP of 140k, will beat anything else
I drag race my 991 GT3 every other month with a group of car friends and my
car beats a Mustang GT350, Corvette both regular and Z06, M4, Tesla P90D, Ferrari 458, and tied a Nissan GTR.
A 4.0L .2 GT3 would do even better. But it wouldn't beat the 200k and above cars.
11-27-2016, 09:37 PM
#109
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Jumping in late on this but I saw the gt3.2 in the flesh while visiting Weissach and just like all the other GT3's it has a wing.
This wing delete talk is nonsense.
This wing delete talk is nonsense.
11-27-2016, 09:38 PM
#110
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^ kind of like man has *****? or is this not politically correct?
11-27-2016, 09:43 PM
#111
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
Jumping in late on this but I saw the gt3.2 in the flesh while visiting Weissach and just like all the other GT3's it has a wing.
This wing delete talk is nonsense.
This wing delete talk is nonsense.
Otherwise it's quite entertaining to hear the speculation from those with " sources " and no common sense...
11-27-2016, 09:51 PM
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FWIW the actual porsche employees love watching you guys write stuff on here speculating and wishing or being pissed about stuff that never happens.
The next gen will have a 4.9L Turbo Wankel engine with DLC coated suspension springs and fluffy hamster pelt carpets. FYI.
The next gen will have a 4.9L Turbo Wankel engine with DLC coated suspension springs and fluffy hamster pelt carpets. FYI.
11-27-2016, 10:17 PM
#116
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11-27-2016, 10:38 PM
#117
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on a more general note, if people at Porsche get a kick out of our rampant speculation, do they also sometimes use rennlist for market research, and ever add anything to the next car model that their enthusiast customers hope they will?
11-27-2016, 10:41 PM
#118
Yes change us more more(:^^^^^^
11-27-2016, 11:21 PM
#119
Drifting
Ah, yes the V-4 from the 919 surely
11-27-2016, 11:33 PM
#120
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Haha i have heard the same thing - they definitely love what is written here and the rumors and wild speculation that never come true.