991 GT2RS
06-05-2017, 02:46 AM
#1352
At that kind of time spent on track I run a race car...eventually you will have a completely shot ___________ and it will need to be replaced for ___,______.
I personally think that while porsche is lauded for reliability on track we are also talking about catastrophic pdk failures, camshaft blowouts, etc on the GT3. Cup cars blow engines. When you flog cars hard they all break eventually.
Granted it sounds like you have been through 4 sets of pads and 14 sets of tires and 2 sets of rotors...how much life do you have left in your axles, hubs, center lock nut, shocks, etc??
I personally think that while porsche is lauded for reliability on track we are also talking about catastrophic pdk failures, camshaft blowouts, etc on the GT3. Cup cars blow engines. When you flog cars hard they all break eventually.
Granted it sounds like you have been through 4 sets of pads and 14 sets of tires and 2 sets of rotors...how much life do you have left in your axles, hubs, center lock nut, shocks, etc??
06-05-2017, 02:53 AM
#1353
Rennlist Member
Right.
Only Porsche's can be beat on day after day, in the heat, all day long.
I mean, 4 days on tires, 8-10 day on front pads, 16-20 days on front rotors and the rear pads and rotors last forever..
About 56-58 track days now, 19K miles. And not even a hickup?!
I can only whine about low fuel limp mode, a finicky oil level and TPMS bot allowing to set below 26PSI..
Filling up a water tank a la M4 GTS meh, but OK.
As long as it goes and goes, there is no substitute.
All other stuff I rarely see on track simply won't function right, or not for long, or at insane running costs...I'd love to have an alternative but it doesn't exist.
Only Porsche's can be beat on day after day, in the heat, all day long.
I mean, 4 days on tires, 8-10 day on front pads, 16-20 days on front rotors and the rear pads and rotors last forever..
About 56-58 track days now, 19K miles. And not even a hickup?!
I can only whine about low fuel limp mode, a finicky oil level and TPMS bot allowing to set below 26PSI..
Filling up a water tank a la M4 GTS meh, but OK.
As long as it goes and goes, there is no substitute.
All other stuff I rarely see on track simply won't function right, or not for long, or at insane running costs...I'd love to have an alternative but it doesn't exist.
I drove my 918 400km to my track for it's grand opening.
3/4 way in, I got a hybrid system failure, with a check engine light on.
Next thing I know, the car wouldn't restart, it refused to get into gear at the gas station.
I tried for 5 mins and it still won't start.
I got out, lock the car, had a cigarette, then unlock the car and start it again, it got into gear an driving was possible.
Just a pure coincidence, my buddy took his P1, trailered to the track, but after 4 laps it went into lip mode. the shifts were done at 5k rpm. On the same day as met car got the error code.
The next day, both cars were on the track, the P1 was still in limp mode, and my car was having the check engine light on for the hybrid system. Both did hot laps, his limp mode was still on, my check engine light for the hybrid system went off after a few laps, it's been off ever since. I drove home 400 kms away after about 30 hot laps, his car was trailered back, underivable.
FYI, he doesn't care if he breaks the car or not, same was I.
06-05-2017, 03:00 AM
#1354
Rennlist Member
How about this for a little story.
I drove my 918 400km to my track for it's grand opening.
3/4 way in, I got a hybrid system failure, with a check engine light on.
Next thing I know, the car wouldn't restart, it refused to get into gear at the gas station.
I tried for 5 mins and it still won't start.
I got out, lock the car, had a cigarette, then unlock the car and start it again, it got into gear an driving was possible.
Just a pure coincidence, my buddy took his P1, trailered to the track, but after 4 laps it went into lip mode. the shifts were done at 5k rpm. On the same day as met car got the error code.
The next day, both cars were on the track, the P1 was still in limp mode, and my car was having the check engine light on for the hybrid system. Both did hot laps, his limp mode was still on, my check engine light for the hybrid system went off after a few laps, it's been off ever since. I drove home 400 kms away after about 30 hot laps, his car was trailered back, underivable.
FYI, he doesn't care if he breaks the car or not, same was I.
I drove my 918 400km to my track for it's grand opening.
3/4 way in, I got a hybrid system failure, with a check engine light on.
Next thing I know, the car wouldn't restart, it refused to get into gear at the gas station.
I tried for 5 mins and it still won't start.
I got out, lock the car, had a cigarette, then unlock the car and start it again, it got into gear an driving was possible.
Just a pure coincidence, my buddy took his P1, trailered to the track, but after 4 laps it went into lip mode. the shifts were done at 5k rpm. On the same day as met car got the error code.
The next day, both cars were on the track, the P1 was still in limp mode, and my car was having the check engine light on for the hybrid system. Both did hot laps, his limp mode was still on, my check engine light for the hybrid system went off after a few laps, it's been off ever since. I drove home 400 kms away after about 30 hot laps, his car was trailered back, underivable.
FYI, he doesn't care if he breaks the car or not, same was I.
06-05-2017, 03:18 AM
#1355
At that kind of time spent on track I run a race car...eventually you will have a completely shot ___________ and it will need to be replaced for ___,______.
I personally think that while porsche is lauded for reliability on track we are also talking about catastrophic pdk failures, camshaft blowouts, etc on the GT3. Cup cars blow engines. When you flog cars hard they all break eventually.
Granted it sounds like you have been through 4 sets of pads and 14 sets of tires and 2 sets of rotors...how much life do you have left in your axles, hubs, center lock nut, shocks, etc??
I personally think that while porsche is lauded for reliability on track we are also talking about catastrophic pdk failures, camshaft blowouts, etc on the GT3. Cup cars blow engines. When you flog cars hard they all break eventually.
Granted it sounds like you have been through 4 sets of pads and 14 sets of tires and 2 sets of rotors...how much life do you have left in your axles, hubs, center lock nut, shocks, etc??
06-05-2017, 04:55 AM
#1358
Race Director
Originally Posted by GrantG
This is a very cutting edge development, previously only seen in $30k Subarus and Mitsubishis from 15 years ago 
https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=297783
https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=297783
06-05-2017, 08:04 AM
#1362
06-05-2017, 08:08 AM
#1363
Race Car
06-05-2017, 08:12 AM
#1364
Rennlist Member
Now that sister company Lamborghini has a Performante that seems to handle well on the track, wouldn't it also stand up to abuse?
I'd have a hard time deciding on the GT2 RS over that, but could see those with collections buying up all of these just for being so over the top for a rear engine Porsche.
I'd have a hard time deciding on the GT2 RS over that, but could see those with collections buying up all of these just for being so over the top for a rear engine Porsche.
06-05-2017, 08:19 AM
#1365