991 GT2RS
06-05-2017, 08:55 AM
#1366
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Warranty my good man, and just as things might get a little sticky, a new model comes out. Also selling a race car is an exercise in pain, whereas a GT can just carry that Porsche certification right on to the next guy. And let us not forget the lovely pricing of all things Porsche Motorsports of North America, makes the local dealer look like a thrift shop. I love the idea of a race car but it's just a different animal
06-05-2017, 08:55 AM
#1367
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At that kind of time spent on track I run a race car...eventually you will have a completely shot ___________ and it will need to be replaced for ___,______.
I personally think that while porsche is lauded for reliability on track we are also talking about catastrophic pdk failures, camshaft blowouts, etc on the GT3. Cup cars blow engines. When you flog cars hard they all break eventually.
Granted it sounds like you have been through 4 sets of pads and 14 sets of tires and 2 sets of rotors...how much life do you have left in your axles, hubs, center lock nut, shocks, etc??
I personally think that while porsche is lauded for reliability on track we are also talking about catastrophic pdk failures, camshaft blowouts, etc on the GT3. Cup cars blow engines. When you flog cars hard they all break eventually.
Granted it sounds like you have been through 4 sets of pads and 14 sets of tires and 2 sets of rotors...how much life do you have left in your axles, hubs, center lock nut, shocks, etc??
Then there is the convenience of driving it to shops, gas stations and track. And the occasional fun cruise.
Porsche's break, some have had bad luck. I've only broken exhausts, clutches and transcooler valves. All warranty. All 997's. 991RS has been perfection, it may blow up tomorrow, I will do another Blackstone Lab analysis next week out of curiousity but it blows, it blows under warranty.
As your say racecars break as well.
I had to buy an upright once when I stripped the hole with a caliper bolt. Studs are advisable.
Hubs and wheel locking mechanism are in the maintenance schedule.
When it's time to sell I take the depreciation with a smile.
The real fault is safety, no cage, no fire suppressant system...
06-05-2017, 09:03 AM
#1368
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On this gt2rs... I'd take 2700lbs over 700hp all day, every day and twice on Sunday. Size matters, but 3ft long may start to become a problem.
06-05-2017, 11:11 AM
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06-05-2017, 11:18 AM
#1372
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Annoying for sure. Not what you want to experience when you rent a car.
Talked a to Ron about this and the problem for them in reality is that everytime that happens they loose the car for maybe 2 months during which they of course have bookings for that car - with clients being upset when car is not available and money lost hurting the business.
Talked a to Ron about this and the problem for them in reality is that everytime that happens they loose the car for maybe 2 months during which they of course have bookings for that car - with clients being upset when car is not available and money lost hurting the business.
06-05-2017, 11:42 AM
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06-05-2017, 12:21 PM
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06-05-2017, 12:51 PM
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06-05-2017, 12:54 PM
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"1. The new GT2 RS will have at least 650hp
You’ll recall the previous 997 GT2 RS had what is still a mighty 620hp (it actually remains the most powerful 911 of all time). However, the new 991 GT2 RS looks set to eclipse that, Preuninger telling us the car will be good for at least 650hp.
2. The new GT2 RS will boast more than 750Nm torque
That monster torque figure is actually the work of Porsche’s latest 991.2 Turbo S, which to this point takes the title of being the 911 with the most twist (the 997 GT2 RS has 700Nm). The 991 GT2 RS looks set to sail past that figure too, though Herr Preuninger remains tight-lipped – for now – as to what the final figure may be.
3. The GT2 RS’s engine size is 3.8-litres
That’s right, whereas the naturally aspirated GT3 RS and 991 R utilise a bigger, 4.0-litre version of Porsche’s 9A1-coded flat six, the GT2 RS uses a heavily revised version of the 3.8-litre flat six found in the current 991 Turbo S. Porsche is quick to stress the new GT2 RS has had far more than a mere remap of the Turbo S’s unit, though.
4. The new GT2 RS’s intercoolers are spray-cooled
Similar to the technology currently utilised by BMW, the GT2 RS’s intercoolers are spray-cooled, with a fine mist sprayed onto their netting. We’re told the ensuing evaporation effect reduces intake temperature by as much as 15 degrees.
9. The new GT2 RS will be fully rose-jointed
That means it’ll be a super-stiff, focused ride, but we were surprised by how compliant the car felt. That said, the dampers are mounted upside-down, in true race-car guise, and the GT2 RS’s spring rates will be ‘the most extreme ever for a Porsche road car’.
10. The new GT2 RS will be offered with an optional Weissach Pack
This cool weight-saving option, which we expect many owners to take, will see the GT2 RS’s kerb weight reduced by around 30 kilograms. GT2 RS’s with the Weissach Pack will come with a carbon fibre roof rather than a magnesium number found on the GT3 RS and R."
Oh my
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You’ll recall the previous 997 GT2 RS had what is still a mighty 620hp (it actually remains the most powerful 911 of all time). However, the new 991 GT2 RS looks set to eclipse that, Preuninger telling us the car will be good for at least 650hp.
2. The new GT2 RS will boast more than 750Nm torque
That monster torque figure is actually the work of Porsche’s latest 991.2 Turbo S, which to this point takes the title of being the 911 with the most twist (the 997 GT2 RS has 700Nm). The 991 GT2 RS looks set to sail past that figure too, though Herr Preuninger remains tight-lipped – for now – as to what the final figure may be.
3. The GT2 RS’s engine size is 3.8-litres
That’s right, whereas the naturally aspirated GT3 RS and 991 R utilise a bigger, 4.0-litre version of Porsche’s 9A1-coded flat six, the GT2 RS uses a heavily revised version of the 3.8-litre flat six found in the current 991 Turbo S. Porsche is quick to stress the new GT2 RS has had far more than a mere remap of the Turbo S’s unit, though.
4. The new GT2 RS’s intercoolers are spray-cooled
Similar to the technology currently utilised by BMW, the GT2 RS’s intercoolers are spray-cooled, with a fine mist sprayed onto their netting. We’re told the ensuing evaporation effect reduces intake temperature by as much as 15 degrees.
9. The new GT2 RS will be fully rose-jointed
That means it’ll be a super-stiff, focused ride, but we were surprised by how compliant the car felt. That said, the dampers are mounted upside-down, in true race-car guise, and the GT2 RS’s spring rates will be ‘the most extreme ever for a Porsche road car’.
10. The new GT2 RS will be offered with an optional Weissach Pack
This cool weight-saving option, which we expect many owners to take, will see the GT2 RS’s kerb weight reduced by around 30 kilograms. GT2 RS’s with the Weissach Pack will come with a carbon fibre roof rather than a magnesium number found on the GT3 RS and R."
Oh my
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Epic! However i don't know if it's good that the car will be offered with PDK only..
Pure driving.
06-05-2017, 01:10 PM
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06-05-2017, 01:15 PM
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A water injection system is what the BMW GT4 GTS has (only production car so far, afaik). This puts water inside the engine combustion process (internally) and allows for more boost and cooler running with additional power and torque. Very high tech.
An intercooler sprayer just sprays water (or windshield washer fluid in the case of Subaru) onto the outside of the intercooler to improve its effectiveness and to combat heat soaking. It basically is just a window washer nozzle aimed at the intercooler (in addition to the windshield). Rather low tech...
So far various articles about the GT2RS have mentioned one or the other system (but I bet it's the high tech water injection system, though I suppose it could also have an intercooler sprayer as well).
An intercooler sprayer just sprays water (or windshield washer fluid in the case of Subaru) onto the outside of the intercooler to improve its effectiveness and to combat heat soaking. It basically is just a window washer nozzle aimed at the intercooler (in addition to the windshield). Rather low tech...
So far various articles about the GT2RS have mentioned one or the other system (but I bet it's the high tech water injection system, though I suppose it could also have an intercooler sprayer as well).
06-05-2017, 01:16 PM
#1380
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if GT2RS is spray cooled.. this could mean big things in the aftermarket with regards to m0aR POWA... I don't see why this couldn't be adapted for methanol..