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Old 02-12-2016 | 07:15 PM
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Why does everyone always assume that cars like this will be 'bubble wrapped'? I doubt that anyone bought a 918 as a speculator, given the order book was open and slow for literally years.

It's only been recently that prices have gone up, and that wasn't foreseeable. Look at where the prices of CGTs were when 918 orders went in - the leap upwards is a recent phenomenon, amd wasn't a reason for purchasing a 918.

I know, or know of, a few 918 original purchasers and the vast majority (not all) are long time car enthusiasts and drivers. They're just in the good position of being able to afford a 918.

Personally, I see little point in the GT3RS as its not a real race car and it's not a better road car than the GT3. You also pull levers to get the electronics to change gears. The R is of interest because it seems to be designed for more involving driving, not because it's for bubble wrapping.

Personally, I hope it's not got too much power as that will inevitably mean it's got to have all sorts of safety add-ons. Having said that, that's probably where we are nowadays anyway,
please don't let it Rev-match though!
Old 02-12-2016 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rave426
So who do I have to hold up to get PTS?
I think thats the problem, to get one you might have to blow someone
Old 02-12-2016 | 09:04 PM
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Alex. great work. Consistent with other testimony from those who have seen marketing materials.

Good news for Gt3 owners may now have CF body panels available for weight reduction lol! Can you imagine what those will cost even if you have a valid VIN to order them? The only panel I can see saving real weight over GT3/RS is there real steel fender? Already the front fender, hood, doors and roof on the GT3 are aluminium and on the RS CF.

Going to a MT will save some weight and I can see a few AMG here and there but we are hardly talking a 1300kg stripper are we?
Old 02-12-2016 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
Sounds like there is solid information out there now. For those that have specifics, please share! Or send me a PM with the details I won't tell...
This......When these 'future cars' threads get to 75 pages mods should separate info to 'mental masturbation/whining' and 'just the facts'.
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Old 02-12-2016 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 96redLT4
This......When these 'future cars' threads get to 75 pages mods should separate info to 'mental masturbation/whining' and 'just the facts'.
J
You won't want to see what happens in the "mental masturbation/whining" section when production numbers are announced then...

Hint: there will be a lot of masturbating and whining.
Old 02-12-2016 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
911R
-white or silver (no PTS even if you're god himself)
-red or green center stripe
-black or saddle brown interior
-carbon panels.
-massive weight reduction efforts
-underbody aero
-4.0

I could say more but then I'd have to kill you.
Good news: after five years Porsche finally figured out how to build the 991 we wanted all along.

Bad news: they don't really want to sell many of them from the sounds of it.

Brilliant strategy.
Old 02-12-2016 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Footsoldier
Personally, I see little point in the GT3RS as its not a real race car and it's not a better road car than the GT3.
Funny. I felt completely the same way, until I saw, drove and really experienced a 991 RS. Now, I get it. Exceeded my expectations.

Otherwise, agree 100% with the rest of your commentary. I see these cars being driven, not bubble wrapped.
Old 02-12-2016 | 10:19 PM
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I'm curious about the underbody aero. No doubt that'll show up again in a GT car; combined with a big wing that could be ludicrous!
Old 02-12-2016 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bronson7
Perfect stable mate, 993 and 991, in my eyes.
Exactly. Best of both.
Old 02-12-2016 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by lessthan3mph
I'm curious about the underbody aero. No doubt that'll show up again in a GT car; combined with a big wing that could be ludicrous!
As far as the underbody aero goes, all they have to do is go check out the underbody aero of a Fcar. Ferrari never uses a rear wing on their production cars and get most of their down force from underneath.
Old 02-12-2016 | 11:03 PM
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Since this 911R is a "Unicorn", I am hoping the underbody aero would be as nice as that of the 918 Spyder. Maybe they can fit each of the exhaust tip in between the vertical slats on each side as shown in the rear end picture of the 918 Spyder.

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Old 02-12-2016 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Macca

Good news for Gt3 owners may now have CF body panels available for weight reduction lol! Can you imagine what those will cost even if you have a valid VIN to order them? The only panel I can see saving real weight over GT3/RS is there real steel fender? Already the front fender, hood, doors and roof on the GT3 are aluminium and on the RS CF.

Going to a MT will save some weight and I can see a few AMG here and there but we are hardly talking a 1300kg stripper are we?
I agree on the weight loss skepticism. The RS used lots of exotic materials yet it is only about 10 kilos lighter than the GT3.

Yes the R will be manual, but I just don't see a way to significant weight reduction without a carbon tub, (like mclaren), so I don't believe the R will be that much lighter than an RS with a manual transmission.
Old 02-12-2016 | 11:07 PM
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^Yeh but I can not grow up and love a wing if it is tastefully done like on the 991 GT3. I like my toy to look like a match box car- it brings out the inner child in me
Old 02-12-2016 | 11:15 PM
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I'm with you Jimmy, on the tastefully done rear wing, especially on the .1 GT3.
Old 02-12-2016 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Drifting
I agree on the weight loss skepticism. The RS used lots of exotic materials yet it is only about 10 kilos lighter than the GT3.

Yes the R will be manual, but I just don't see a way to significant weight reduction without a carbon tub, (like mclaren), so I don't believe the R will be that much lighter than an RS with a manual transmission.
Yup, it's not going to be that just lighter than an RS or a GT3...maybe 100lbs at most.


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