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Old 11-07-2015 | 09:50 PM
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I hope the 911R is Porsche's answer to this:

Old 11-07-2015 | 10:12 PM
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I told my dealer principal that if I didn't like the 911 R I was going to order a singer - he asked for my deposit on the 911R...so fingers crossed!
Old 11-07-2015 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by <3mph
I hope the 911R is Porsche's answer to this: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QefjoIApDmg&feature=youtu.be">YouTube Link</a>
That's what's many of us hope. Just not $300k......
Old 11-07-2015 | 11:38 PM
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If only it would look like that......
Old 11-07-2015 | 11:52 PM
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Since we are at the speculating stage, I would like to add one bit: sources say the MT will be column mounted. Any truth to the rumor?
Old 11-08-2015 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Just in time
Since we are at the speculating stage, I would like to add one bit: sources say the MT will be column mounted. Any truth to the rumor?
3 on the tree would be pretty special. Have to dbl clutch I would hope too. No synchromesh is a proper manual.
Old 11-08-2015 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Adair
Yea, more like $400+

Too many cars, too little money and not enough time...
singers? it's quite a bit more than 400k.
Old 11-08-2015 | 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by sparkyglenn
3 on the tree would be pretty special. Have to dbl clutch I would hope too. No synchromesh is a proper manual.
Outside of the Renault 4? Which had a dash-mounted shifter (my mom had one).. I've never heard of a car with a shifter which is not mounted on the floor?? Definitely not a Porsche??
Old 11-08-2015 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
Outside of the Renault 4? Which had a dash-mounted shifter (my mom had one).. I've never heard of a car with a shifter which is not mounted on the floor?? Definitely not a Porsche??
I am most likely older than you are and I have seen plenty column mounted shifters in years way, way past. Definitely not Porsche, although it may never be too late to start.
Old 11-08-2015 | 08:34 AM
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I was thinking about this thread while watching this video the other day but forgot to post. I know it's about a different marque, but the essence of the video is very fitting for the nostalgia and desires of why people are describing their 911R desires the way they are.

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Originally Posted by Just in time
I am most likely older than you are and I have seen plenty column mounted shifters in years way, way past. Definitely not Porsche, although it may never be too late to start.
Are we talking manual transmissions or automatics??? I'm assuming manuals right.. What column mounted manual transmission can you name?
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I have some doubt that the planned/rumored attributes of the 991R can give it the distinct 911 feel of a 997 or prior generation. IMO, when they increased the wheelbase, widened the front track, etc. with the 991, that resulted in a BIG change in the feel of the car, which applies to every 991 variant. Compared to a Cayman, the 991 is still a rear-engine 911, but compared to the prior generations of 911, IMO it's quite a different car and noticeably less a 911. But I may be in the minority in feeling that way.
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Here's your R.
AC cold, ride comfortable, makes all the right sounds and moves.
5 seconds per minute slower than a 997 3.8RS. On smaller technical tracks less.
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Old 11-08-2015 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Here's your R. AC cold, ride comfortable, makes all the right sounds and moves. 5 seconds per minute slower than a 997 3.8RS. On smaller technical tracks less.

There it is! Will be hard to improve on that.
Old 11-08-2015 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
I have some doubt that the planned/rumored attributes of the 991R can give it the distinct 911 feel of a 997 or prior generation. IMO, when they increased the wheelbase, widened the front track, etc. with the 991, that resulted in a BIG change in the feel of the car, which applies to every 991 variant. Compared to a Cayman, the 991 is still a rear-engine 911, but compared to the prior generations of 911, IMO it's quite a different car and noticeably less a 911. But I may be in the minority in feeling that way.
...and the ticks of time and phases of change march relentlessly on...it's just how it is

...i think with the recent gt4 sales phenomenon, pag management is more convinced than ever that simpler/lighter/purer driving cars have a viable niche market worldwide among enthusiasts... within the confines of their parts bin and modern regs they will try to deliver more of them

but of course try as they might (even in the shadow of the VW debacle) to do so, their niche vehicles will not/can not harken back to the degree of distilled 911 essence that uber-restored relics like singer/accumoto do etc etc etc... those cars are from a different era that was long long ago


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