mrsullivan

i like black wheels with the funky PTS colors

silver wheels with the darker paint colors

also think some paint colors and wheel choices that look great on vintage shapes just wont look right on large modern GT3/RS.

and vice versa.

here are some other examples i think just "work". black wheels on the 993 wouldn't have looked right. and for instance, I would have done the vintage race car, which i think is otherwise so perfect, with silver wheels.

i think signal green works with grey wheels too, but not sure about silver, for me

consolidated

A little LO on the outside could really set Viper off, fun project. We could use a graphic designer hourly on this forum, lol.

Z356

It has more 'life' than 'Gulf', less intense 'Blue' tint than 'Riviera',
& less 'Green' tint than the new 'Miami'! The friend who ordered
the 'Olympic Blue' gt4 was thinking that the color might be closer
to 'Crystal Blue', a late '60s vintage 911 color as found in my original
paint 1970 911E Targa that you can see in my Rennlist avatar!

Here is what he wrote to me:

"I was thinking of how much I admired your crystal blue targa
when I ordered this!! PTS Olympic Blue - a 914 color...I know
that this color will draw comments both plus and minus, but I
view the Boxster/Cayman series as the modern day 914 and
thought the color was unique and appropriate. Plus, your car
looks so amazing that I thought this similar color would be
fun to own."

Hopefully we will be able to check out at some point how close
'Olympic Blue' is to the old 'Crystal Blau', but I appreciate the
compliment & tribute to the color on my '70 911E Targa!







Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel

<3mph

Eduardo, while you're on the topic, can you comment on the difference between Pastel blue and Crystal blue? Thanks!

Z356

Daniel:

We have at least one 'Pastel Blue' early 911 in our 'R Gruppe' club,
so I am somewhat familiar with that color:



And there has been threads at other forums that have discussed
this color in some detail:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...blue-pics.html

My personal opinion is that 'Pastel Blue' is a bit subdued & doesn't
have the 'vibrancy' that I detect in 'Crystal Blue'. It's a nice enough
color...and one that was quite popular in its day. For example, for
MY1970 when 'Pastel Blue' was offered as a standard color on the
911/914-6 by PAG, it was ordered by 4.23% of the total builds for
that production model year!

Christophorus no 89, october 1970, page 44.
Article by Richard von Frankenberg.

..." for the first 11 months of the 1970 model year, the picture is as follows ..."
..." August 1969 to June 1970 inclusive ... during this period a total of 15,749 porsches of types 911 and 914/6 were built ..."

This means - 1% = 157 cars, and (see below), 0.1% would be (unless my maths is worse than i thought!) 16 cars ...

the (what he calls) standard colours ...
- blood orange 14.48%
- ivory 13.75%
- signal orange 11.72%
- irish green 7.03%
- albert blue 6.81%
- conda green 6.56%
- bahia red 6.42%
- burgundy red 6.07%
- pastel blue 4.23%

then the special colours (note, he says only 1.3% were buyer match colours ... not included here):
- metallic silver 7.83%
- metallic blue 2.78%
- lemon yellow 2.10%
- black 1.22%
- metallic green 1.21%
- adriatic blue 1.21%
- light yellow 1.11%
- metallic red 0.96%
- sepia 0.79%
- olive 0.68%
- signal yellow 0.60%
- bush green 0.21%
- beige 0.10%
- signal green 0.10%
- porcelain blue 0.10%
- light red 0.10%
- ivory 0.10%
- crystal blue 0.10%
- turquoise 0.10%
- turquoise green 0.10%
- light grey 0.10%

The above was posted in the Early 911S Registry and I have seen
copy of the original Christophorus article by von Frankenberg!

Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel

bronson7

Eduardo, I remember back a little while ago you compared todays version of Racing Yellow to a lemon. I just noticed there is a colour in your list called "Lemon Yellow". How close is it to today's RY and would you have a comparison of the two?

<3mph

Thanks Eduardo. That's very helpful.

I've been looking around online trying to determine a little about the various blues, especially the medium ones that seem very close. FWIW, here is what I've uncovered on a few of them, and hopefully this is verifiable by you and others, and might be of interest.

It appears that of some the nonmetallic blues in the Porsche line up, there are at least the following (in order from light to dark, apparently):

-Gulf
-Meissen (??less saturated than Gulf)
-Crystal (more saturation and green than Gulf)
-Pastel (less saturated than Crystal)
-Olympic (less green than Miami more saturation than Gulf)
-Riviera
-Miami (more green than Riviera)
-Mexico (ever so slightly darker than Riviera)
-Glacier (darker than Mexico)
-Bahama/Acid (darker than Glacier)
-Club (??just slightly different from Bahama)
-Voodoo (???somewhere in here)
-Arrow (darker and less saturated than Bahama)
-Maritime (more purple hue)

WRT Clubblau, I'm curious if we ever heard any more detail, like is it a couple tints darker, or a little more saturated and intense, as opposed to a slight shift in hue towards purple or green. And of course I don't know where Voodoo sits in this line up.

Some of the above info came from pelican, and is based on the following.







Bahama:


Club:


Voodoo:


Arrow:

Z356

then the special colours (note, he says only 1.3% were buyer match colours ... not included here):
- metallic silver 7.83%
- metallic blue 2.78%
- lemon yellow 2.10%

The names on the English version of Christophorus do not necessarily correspond
to the official names for the colors that Porsche had assigned them at the time.
I have subsequently tried to assigned the colors their correct English name as
used by Porsche at the time and posted it here on Rennlist. I will try to find that
post to see what color is 'Lemon Yellow'. There was a 'Canary Yellow', color code
115, in 1970, which was sometimes translated as 'Lemon Yellow'. Here is the
914 version of it:




And in a 911 brochure of the period:



This 'Lemon Yellow' color, which appears to be a 914 color only in MY1970,
should not be confused with the later yellow-green hues called 'Gelbgrün',
color code 137, or 'Birch Green', color code 253, or 'Chartreuse', color code
226, all of which combined yellow & green extremely well and were very
popular in the early 1970's!

*****

As you can see, 'Lemon Yellow'/'Canary Yellow' is nothing like today's 'Racing Yellow'.




Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel

bronson7

Thank you Eduardo. Went to Google and found some interesting pics of the Canary Yellow/Lemon Yellow.

CHADW

Has anyone taken delivery of their PTS RS yet? I have a Mexico Blue on order since March but have no idea when it will arrive.

Thanks!

usctrojanGT3

Club blue looks good too.

JUPJAI

Miami Blue - the real unicorn non PTS

<3mph

Thanks Jupjai! More (from gt3rs_mrpurple on Instagram; car at Porsche of Huntington)...

CGT000

^ Huntington, CA or Huntington NY?

<3mph

Huntington, NY