Reference Guide to PTS
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Please keep us updated on your attempt for Miami Blue. My dealer was able to change my color to Miami Blue (Nov build date) a couple weeks ago. Aug 10th to be exact. It actually successfully stayed in the system for 3 days before PAG told my dealer that I wasn't eligible for Miami Blue because I didn't already have an approved PTS build. So now I'm at UV
#767
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The Saga of the PTS Gulf Livery 918s...
This is a repost from a thread on the 918 forum. But I thought it would be
of interest to you too at this forum:
OK, there is a bit of a story here involving these Gulf 918's. So far, we
have one in Atlanta and two in Saskatoon (Canada). And as I sensed
from reading Crisis' post of what was reported to him by the Canadian
owner, there appears to be a rivalry going between owners & their
'Gulf' livery cars. And it's not just what the Wyant folks are saying up
North, the Atlanta owner has his own set of peculiar claims:
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And, as a reminder, here is what the Canadian owner is saying about his two 918 'Gulf Livery' Spyders:
"He also mentioned that another Gulf 918 had just just surfaced on instragram, but went to great lengths
to point out that his 2 cars were unique in a few ways. Those differences included the period-correct
matching paint colors..."
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So what gives? Does the statement by the US owner that his is the: 'ONLY 918 CAR' in North America that has
been approved by Gulf Oil and is being developed by Porsche AG /PCNA in Gulf Livery' true? Did Porsche changed
the colors on the Canadian 918s from current PTS 'Gulf Blue' & 'Gulf Orange'? Is the issue the approval by Gulf Oil
Canada? My understanding is that PAG required owners wanting the Gulf Livery scheme to get a license from Gulf
Oil to use the logo and colors. The license was free and the only limit was that the car not be used for advertising.
So I would argue that every one of these 'Gulf' livery 918's obtained that license from Gulf Oil.
Here is the email I received from a knowledgeable 918 owner who is familiar with the 'Gulf' theme on that model:
"Eduardo,
Re: The US 'Gulf' 918 in Atlanta:
1. It is painted in the current standard Porsche Gulf Blue and Gulf Orange. The stripe is paint. The Gulf logos and
the roundels are vinyl. The interior is the standard brown leather with orange piping.
Here are 3 photos of the car at the factory that the owner posted that show exactly how it left the factory before
the decals were installed:
http://www.exoticcarmeet.com/porsche-brand.html
2. There are also two Gulf 918's in Canada. These cars don't have the vinyl roundels mounted, and the side Gulf
logos were placed differently. These also differ in that they have black interiors with blue piping and the Gulf
headrest imprint."
We know that Porsche has approved both 'Gulf Blue' and 'Gulf Orange' for PTS in the 991/981. It would be my educated
guess that Porsche used those already approved PTS 'Gulf' colors to do all three 'Gulf' livery 918s that we know of so far.
And PAG most certainly created a PTS color code sticker (like they do on all their PTS cars) for those two Canadian 918s
with their official 'farbcode'. And I would bet that sticker reads: 328 just as mine reads 22S:
But if anyone can verify the color code sticker on any of the two Canadian cars it would go a long way towards solving this
PTS color dispute!
By the way, could there be a fourth 'Gulf' 918 not yet delivered?
The Saga of the Gulf Livery 918s...to be continued.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
of interest to you too at this forum:
Very timely post. I just got home from the unveiling of two 918s in
Gulf Livery at Porsche Centre of Saskatoon.
The owner of the dealership, Vaughn Wyant, went into quite a bit of
detail about the ordeal he had to go through with Porsche and Gulf
to be able to get the cars painted in the Gulf Racing scheme. He
initially approached the President of Porsche Canada, who went to
Porsche AG with the request. The reply was "if you can get approval
from Gulf, we will build them for you. But you will never get it approved."
Turns out that the approval from Gulf wan't really all that difficult, and
after some back & forth with Porsche, they agreed to build them as requested.
He also mentioned that another Gulf 918 had just just surfaced on
instragram, but went to great lengths to point out that his 2 cars
were unique in a few ways. Those differences included the
period-correct matching paint colours, the "Gulf" logos embossed
in the headrests and the lack of any green paint on the lettering
or the brake calipers. Sounds like the deletion of the green paint
took some persuasion, but Porsche finally agreed that it would
look stupid with the blue & orange paint scheme. This may all
seem pretty trivial, but when you're paying $1.4 million USD each
for these cars, you want to protect your investment.
He plans on selling one and keeping one.
Here are some crappy cell phone photos (I somehow failed to
get a shot of the calipers, but I believe they were black). Also,
I'm sure that there will be some better shots showing up on
twitter at #918gulf. Here's a link to some of the stuff from
tonight's event.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/918gulf?src=hash
Gulf Livery at Porsche Centre of Saskatoon.
The owner of the dealership, Vaughn Wyant, went into quite a bit of
detail about the ordeal he had to go through with Porsche and Gulf
to be able to get the cars painted in the Gulf Racing scheme. He
initially approached the President of Porsche Canada, who went to
Porsche AG with the request. The reply was "if you can get approval
from Gulf, we will build them for you. But you will never get it approved."
Turns out that the approval from Gulf wan't really all that difficult, and
after some back & forth with Porsche, they agreed to build them as requested.
He also mentioned that another Gulf 918 had just just surfaced on
instragram, but went to great lengths to point out that his 2 cars
were unique in a few ways. Those differences included the
period-correct matching paint colours, the "Gulf" logos embossed
in the headrests and the lack of any green paint on the lettering
or the brake calipers. Sounds like the deletion of the green paint
took some persuasion, but Porsche finally agreed that it would
look stupid with the blue & orange paint scheme. This may all
seem pretty trivial, but when you're paying $1.4 million USD each
for these cars, you want to protect your investment.
He plans on selling one and keeping one.
Here are some crappy cell phone photos (I somehow failed to
get a shot of the calipers, but I believe they were black). Also,
I'm sure that there will be some better shots showing up on
twitter at #918gulf. Here's a link to some of the stuff from
tonight's event.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/918gulf?src=hash
Good reporting Crisis. As to what was
told at the event, anyone ordering a 918 could change the calipers
of his/her car from 'Acid Green' to a dark 'Silver' by paying for the
$2800 option. It took little 'persuasion' other than offering the
money to get that option...to which PAG readily agreed to do that
for anyone that asked!
It'll be interesting to follow up on the claim that the Canadian 918s
have 'period-correct matching paint colors', which suggests that the
Atlanta 918 does not. I'll make some inquiries to see if I can get an
answer to that question.
I think everyone who ordered one of these 3 Gulf 918s will do well
in the long run. They are very special.
told at the event, anyone ordering a 918 could change the calipers
of his/her car from 'Acid Green' to a dark 'Silver' by paying for the
$2800 option. It took little 'persuasion' other than offering the
money to get that option...to which PAG readily agreed to do that
for anyone that asked!
It'll be interesting to follow up on the claim that the Canadian 918s
have 'period-correct matching paint colors', which suggests that the
Atlanta 918 does not. I'll make some inquiries to see if I can get an
answer to that question.
I think everyone who ordered one of these 3 Gulf 918s will do well
in the long run. They are very special.
have one in Atlanta and two in Saskatoon (Canada). And as I sensed
from reading Crisis' post of what was reported to him by the Canadian
owner, there appears to be a rivalry going between owners & their
'Gulf' livery cars. And it's not just what the Wyant folks are saying up
North, the Atlanta owner has his own set of peculiar claims:
*****************************************************
And, as a reminder, here is what the Canadian owner is saying about his two 918 'Gulf Livery' Spyders:
"He also mentioned that another Gulf 918 had just just surfaced on instragram, but went to great lengths
to point out that his 2 cars were unique in a few ways. Those differences included the period-correct
matching paint colors..."
***************************************************
So what gives? Does the statement by the US owner that his is the: 'ONLY 918 CAR' in North America that has
been approved by Gulf Oil and is being developed by Porsche AG /PCNA in Gulf Livery' true? Did Porsche changed
the colors on the Canadian 918s from current PTS 'Gulf Blue' & 'Gulf Orange'? Is the issue the approval by Gulf Oil
Canada? My understanding is that PAG required owners wanting the Gulf Livery scheme to get a license from Gulf
Oil to use the logo and colors. The license was free and the only limit was that the car not be used for advertising.
So I would argue that every one of these 'Gulf' livery 918's obtained that license from Gulf Oil.
Here is the email I received from a knowledgeable 918 owner who is familiar with the 'Gulf' theme on that model:
"Eduardo,
Re: The US 'Gulf' 918 in Atlanta:
1. It is painted in the current standard Porsche Gulf Blue and Gulf Orange. The stripe is paint. The Gulf logos and
the roundels are vinyl. The interior is the standard brown leather with orange piping.
Here are 3 photos of the car at the factory that the owner posted that show exactly how it left the factory before
the decals were installed:
http://www.exoticcarmeet.com/porsche-brand.html
2. There are also two Gulf 918's in Canada. These cars don't have the vinyl roundels mounted, and the side Gulf
logos were placed differently. These also differ in that they have black interiors with blue piping and the Gulf
headrest imprint."
We know that Porsche has approved both 'Gulf Blue' and 'Gulf Orange' for PTS in the 991/981. It would be my educated
guess that Porsche used those already approved PTS 'Gulf' colors to do all three 'Gulf' livery 918s that we know of so far.
And PAG most certainly created a PTS color code sticker (like they do on all their PTS cars) for those two Canadian 918s
with their official 'farbcode'. And I would bet that sticker reads: 328 just as mine reads 22S:
But if anyone can verify the color code sticker on any of the two Canadian cars it would go a long way towards solving this
PTS color dispute!
By the way, could there be a fourth 'Gulf' 918 not yet delivered?
The Saga of the Gulf Livery 918s...to be continued.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
#768
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Thread Starter
In case anyone might be interested in an Audi R8 Spyder...
Just in case anyone here might be interested, it is posted over in both Classifieds and Member-to-Member. Priced right too!
https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...566-miles.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...566-miles.html
For Sale: 2011 Audi R8 Spyder / Manual / V8 / Only 6566 Miles!
Former 'Teamspeed Member Car Of The Month' - click on link just below!
http://teamspeed.com/forums/teamspee...ne-2013-a.html
Lava Grey Pearl Metallic
'Amulet Red' Leather Interior
MY2011 Audi R8 Spyder
v8 / Manual Transmission
Illuminated door sills
Navigation with AMI
Heated Seats
R8 carpet floor mats & R8 'winter' rubber fitted mats
Original MSRP $136,000
I have added the following to it:
Amulet Red Leather Interior
R8 gt Alcantara Steering wheel with deviated red stitching
R8 gt Alcantara knee pad with deviating red stitching
R8 V10 shifter cap with red circle
New 'R8' badge (with red enamel) on rear
Purchased from Mercedes of Annapolis 1/08/2013 with 3847 miles,
after original owner traded it in on a MB. Currently 6566 miles, so
I have put only 2719 miles during my ownership.
In Service Date - 9/29/2011 . No accidents, no mechanical or paint issues.
Audi Care - Maintenance Program. I purchased 'Audi Care' in 2013
which covers the first 4 maintenance be it 4 years or 45 thousand miles.
Full Service History available.
First time advertised for sale. Priced to sell this week at US$94000.
I have around $120,000 invested in the vehicle as it sits. Need room
in my small Carmel garage for my new 'Signal Green' 991 gt3!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Email {venegas356@gmail.com}
.
Former 'Teamspeed Member Car Of The Month' - click on link just below!
http://teamspeed.com/forums/teamspee...ne-2013-a.html
Lava Grey Pearl Metallic
'Amulet Red' Leather Interior
MY2011 Audi R8 Spyder
v8 / Manual Transmission
Illuminated door sills
Navigation with AMI
Heated Seats
R8 carpet floor mats & R8 'winter' rubber fitted mats
Original MSRP $136,000
I have added the following to it:
Amulet Red Leather Interior
R8 gt Alcantara Steering wheel with deviated red stitching
R8 gt Alcantara knee pad with deviating red stitching
R8 V10 shifter cap with red circle
New 'R8' badge (with red enamel) on rear
Purchased from Mercedes of Annapolis 1/08/2013 with 3847 miles,
after original owner traded it in on a MB. Currently 6566 miles, so
I have put only 2719 miles during my ownership.
In Service Date - 9/29/2011 . No accidents, no mechanical or paint issues.
Audi Care - Maintenance Program. I purchased 'Audi Care' in 2013
which covers the first 4 maintenance be it 4 years or 45 thousand miles.
Full Service History available.
First time advertised for sale. Priced to sell this week at US$94000.
I have around $120,000 invested in the vehicle as it sits. Need room
in my small Carmel garage for my new 'Signal Green' 991 gt3!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Email {venegas356@gmail.com}
.
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Were you able to keep Miami Blue for your order?
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Reference Guide to PTS in a MY2016 991 gt3 RS
Polesitter and tre -- I tried what you all suggested. My dealer submitted Miami blue late last week. It was accepted initially by the system. I got the call Monday (yesterday) that it was rejected. "PTS window is closed". I was not originally a PTS order, so rejected. Disappointing
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Polesitter and tre -- I tried what you all suggested. My dealer submitted Miami blue late last week. It was accepted initially by the system. I got the call Monday (yesterday) that it was rejected. "PTS window is closed". I was not originally a PTS order, so rejected. Disappointing
Polesitter - you need to play the lottery because you have the magic touch
#774
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
MY2016 gt3...PTS window that never was!
While true that all PTS windows for the 991/981 are presently closed,
the MY2016 gt3s window was never really 'opened'. I have personally
asked both Germany and Atlanta. And both organizations claim that
no PTS gt3 has been approved for production in MY2016.
If anyone has factual information that contradicts that information and
has proof that a PTS MY2016 gt3 has been built for any Porsche market,
we would love to hear from you and have it documented right here on
Rennlist.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
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Reference Guide to PTS in a MY2016 991 gt3 RS
Well, my unicorn PTS allocation ended up being a fleeting moment of glory. PCA came back to my dealer and opened fire earlier this week. I don't know why the system and or human checks on the order details left my PTS order intact for a longer period than otherwise experienced here, but they found me and killed me dead.
So now I guess I'm back to the few color options available. Aggravating and disappointing to say the least.
Sorry if my brief outlier status gave others false hope. I'm just a white, silver, orange or UV schmuck like everybody else.
So now I guess I'm back to the few color options available. Aggravating and disappointing to say the least.
Sorry if my brief outlier status gave others false hope. I'm just a white, silver, orange or UV schmuck like everybody else.
#777
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Thread Starter
'White' is the new 'Black'...if it matters!
there will still be one color available! I promise. Rumor is
that PAG is stocking up the paint right now for all of those
late allocation ( ) 991 gt3s. The word is that PAG has
just placed a very large order with their paint suppliers for....
'White'. That paint has the same 'color code' as the hue
General Electric used for all refrigerators in the early fifties.
And as you know from those years, father knows best!
So don't fret. Your appliance will have some sort of paint
to protect it from the elements & bird droppings!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
#778
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Thread Starter
Well, my unicorn PTS allocation ended up being a fleeting moment of glory. PCA came back to my dealer and opened fire earlier this week. I don't know why the system and or human checks on the order details left my PTS order intact for a longer period than otherwise experienced here, but they found me and killed me dead.
So now I guess I'm back to the few color options available. Aggravating and disappointing to say the least.
Sorry if my brief outlier status gave others false hope. I'm just a white, silver, orange or UV schmuck like everybody else.
So now I guess I'm back to the few color options available. Aggravating and disappointing to say the least.
Sorry if my brief outlier status gave others false hope. I'm just a white, silver, orange or UV schmuck like everybody else.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
#779
Well, my unicorn PTS allocation ended up being a fleeting moment of glory. PCA came back to my dealer and opened fire earlier this week. I don't know why the system and or human checks on the order details left my PTS order intact for a longer period than otherwise experienced here, but they found me and killed me dead.
So now I guess I'm back to the few color options available. Aggravating and disappointing to say the least.
Sorry if my brief outlier status gave others false hope. I'm just a white, silver, orange or UV schmuck like everybody else.
So now I guess I'm back to the few color options available. Aggravating and disappointing to say the least.
Sorry if my brief outlier status gave others false hope. I'm just a white, silver, orange or UV schmuck like everybody else.
Oh well, I guess if we were paying the $21,000(!!) PTS fee that the 918 clients were paying, then we could ALL get PTS!
#780
I'm intrigued to know if anyone else is in the current same position as me on PTS:
- always had a Sept build date with Dec delivery date and still not changed
- system confirms "parts ordered" back in early July
- dealer confirmed there will be a delay.....
- dealer has been trying to contact mother ship for two weeks now and can't get hold of anyone for an answer on delay......
- other known PTS cars from same dealer have been written to formerly stating put back to Dec build and march delivery....
I really don't mind when I get my car - I just find it amusing PAG can't tell me when!
Anyone else same?
- always had a Sept build date with Dec delivery date and still not changed
- system confirms "parts ordered" back in early July
- dealer confirmed there will be a delay.....
- dealer has been trying to contact mother ship for two weeks now and can't get hold of anyone for an answer on delay......
- other known PTS cars from same dealer have been written to formerly stating put back to Dec build and march delivery....
I really don't mind when I get my car - I just find it amusing PAG can't tell me when!
Anyone else same?