Reference Guide to PTS
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#559
I'm hoping that with enough time, things will improve with respect to availability.
Same thing happened with LWB's in my GT4 and Spyder. Both got rejected due to the order stop on LWB's for both cars. We waited. Pushed it through again. Availability cleared up slightly. GT4 approved with LWB's, Spyder rejected. Waited. Pushed it through again. Spyder approved.
I'll be sorely saddened if I can't get PTS in my GT3 RS. Not as badly as if I don't get the car entirely, but still, for that kind of money, it's a serious downer if they just say No (instead of simply delaying my build).
Same thing happened with LWB's in my GT4 and Spyder. Both got rejected due to the order stop on LWB's for both cars. We waited. Pushed it through again. Availability cleared up slightly. GT4 approved with LWB's, Spyder rejected. Waited. Pushed it through again. Spyder approved.
I'll be sorely saddened if I can't get PTS in my GT3 RS. Not as badly as if I don't get the car entirely, but still, for that kind of money, it's a serious downer if they just say No (instead of simply delaying my build).
There is always the option of a decent wrap.
This car was originally Silver.
#561
Part 1
As most of you know, PCNA made the anticipated announcement this week that PTS will be available on the MY2016 991 gt3 RS:
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Below is the 5/12/2015 PTS list published by PCNA for its dealers:
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Each time a Porsche model comes out (e.g. 991 vs 997), the colors must be approved all over again for the particular external materials (aluminum, steel, carbon-fiber reinforced plastic (CFRP), magnesium, standard bumper plastic, etc) used on the latest vehicles. PAG, via their paint supplier, will do coverage & fade tests for each PTS color requested via 'Porsche Exclusive' & the dealer network. And each color you see on the list has been specifically requested by a Porsche customer. Rarely a color is tested without a specific request from a customer for that particular color on an actual vehicle allocation!
To see how the approved list of colors keeps growing since early in the 991 era, compare the present 2/25/2015 PTS list with the first one we published here in Rennlist on July 25th, 2012 (document was dated 6/04/2012), back when I first started tracking the subject matter on this other thread (link below). The later, which includes more than just information on PTS, has proven quite popular and has currently has over 222K views!
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/7085...e-and-you.html
End of Part 1
Saludos,
Eduardo
As most of you know, PCNA made the anticipated announcement this week that PTS will be available on the MY2016 991 gt3 RS:
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Below is the 5/12/2015 PTS list published by PCNA for its dealers:
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Each time a Porsche model comes out (e.g. 991 vs 997), the colors must be approved all over again for the particular external materials (aluminum, steel, carbon-fiber reinforced plastic (CFRP), magnesium, standard bumper plastic, etc) used on the latest vehicles. PAG, via their paint supplier, will do coverage & fade tests for each PTS color requested via 'Porsche Exclusive' & the dealer network. And each color you see on the list has been specifically requested by a Porsche customer. Rarely a color is tested without a specific request from a customer for that particular color on an actual vehicle allocation!
To see how the approved list of colors keeps growing since early in the 991 era, compare the present 2/25/2015 PTS list with the first one we published here in Rennlist on July 25th, 2012 (document was dated 6/04/2012), back when I first started tracking the subject matter on this other thread (link below). The later, which includes more than just information on PTS, has proven quite popular and has currently has over 222K views!
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/7085...e-and-you.html
End of Part 1
Saludos,
Eduardo
I'm brand new here so I apologize if I'm doing this wrong...
Any idea what the 3 grey samples on the far right, 2nd row from the bottom are? How about the 3 below those? I think most specifically I'm looking at the sample 2nd from the bottom and 2nd from the right.... the first one right of what looks to be fashion grey.
I'm looking for non metallic, and have been leaning towards Slate Grey (y97) for a GT4 (Sorry to clog up the GT3 thread but I figured this is more of a PTS conversation than anything). Any info is very much appreciated, hoping to place the order very soon.
Thanks!
Last edited by NORTH DRIVE; 07-28-2015 at 12:35 AM.
#562
When my PTS 235 lichtgrun PTS order was turned down I looked into vinyl wraps that would be close to the color. Only Avery had a color called gloss Lime Green that seemed close but actually quite different when placed next to the original Porsche color. Perhaps there are different vinyl suppliers in Europe but I suspect the wrap on that GT3 is lime green. I checked with Avery about a custom color and it would cost $12K to manufacture the minimum rolls required.
#563
Looks like 'Viper Green'...but you will not be able to confirm until owner tells us. Other possibility is 'Signal Green'...or 'grün'.
Rather than speculate, let me see if I can get the right answers to your questions tomorrow at 'Porsche Exclusive' in Zuffenhausen! There was a 'Slate Grey' PTS Boxster in the production line today but we could talk to workers (or get close to the screens along production line) to confirm exact color code!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Bietigheim
Eduardo et al,
I'm brand new here so I apologize if I'm doing this wrong...
Any idea what the 3 grey samples on the far right, 2nd row from the bottom are? How about the 3 below those? I think most specifically I'm looking at the sample 2nd from the bottom and 2nd from the right.... the first one right of what looks to be fashion grey.
I'm looking for non metallic, and have been leaning towards Slate Grey (y97) for a GT4 (Sorry to clog up the GT3 thread but I figured this is more of a PTS conversation than anything). Any info is very much appreciated, hoping to place the order very soon.
Thanks!
I'm brand new here so I apologize if I'm doing this wrong...
Any idea what the 3 grey samples on the far right, 2nd row from the bottom are? How about the 3 below those? I think most specifically I'm looking at the sample 2nd from the bottom and 2nd from the right.... the first one right of what looks to be fashion grey.
I'm looking for non metallic, and have been leaning towards Slate Grey (y97) for a GT4 (Sorry to clog up the GT3 thread but I figured this is more of a PTS conversation than anything). Any info is very much appreciated, hoping to place the order very soon.
Thanks!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Bietigheim
#564
Looks like 'Viper Green'...but you will not be able to confirm until owner tells us. Other possibility is 'Signal Green'...or 'grün'.
Rather than speculate, let me see if I can get the right answers to your questions tomorrow at 'Porsche Exclusive' in Zuffenhausen! There was a 'Slate Grey' PTS Boxster in the production line today but we could talk to workers (or get close to the screens along production line) to confirm exact color code!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Bietigheim
Rather than speculate, let me see if I can get the right answers to your questions tomorrow at 'Porsche Exclusive' in Zuffenhausen! There was a 'Slate Grey' PTS Boxster in the production line today but we could talk to workers (or get close to the screens along production line) to confirm exact color code!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Bietigheim
Rob
#565
so my mate who's car was same build month as mine (Sept) - we both went PTS - he went maritime blue, me Green Yellow - has told me his car been pushed back to Nov build; I checked mine and the system says all my parts ordered and Sept build date still confirmed.
Do you think the shift for some PTS is down to colour choice....?
Do you think the shift for some PTS is down to colour choice....?
#566
It make sense for Porsche to batch produce PTS cars. They can mix up the paint in one batch and paint a few cars together. So grouping same PTS color cars together during production is preferred.
#567
Probably even more so for third party suppliers who provide painted parts to the factory. Compared to the state-of-the-art paint shop at Porsche, I wonder if some of their painting facilities may be less able to quickly switch paint colours and break into the production of large quantities of standard colour components.
#568
Rather than speculate, let me see if I can get the right answers to your questions tomorrow at 'Porsche Exclusive' in Zuffenhausen! There was a 'Slate Grey' PTS Boxster in the production line today but we could talk to workers (or get close to the screens along production line) to confirm exact color code!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Bietigheim
Saludos,
Eduardo
Bietigheim
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Eduardo et al,
Any idea what the 3 grey samples on the far right, 2nd row from the bottom are? How about the 3 below those? I think most specifically I'm looking at the sample 2nd from the bottom and 2nd from the right.... the first one right of what looks to be fashion grey.
Any idea what the 3 grey samples on the far right, 2nd row from the bottom are? How about the 3 below those? I think most specifically I'm looking at the sample 2nd from the bottom and 2nd from the right.... the first one right of what looks to be fashion grey.
Left 'Light Oxford' next to ' Fashion Grey / ModeGrau'
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But frankly, I wish my notes and photos were better organized. Sorry. I might be able to ask for further clarification from either Germany or Atlanta on this subject if it's not very clear.
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so my mate who's car was same build month as mine (Sept) - we both went PTS - he went maritime blue, me Green Yellow - has told me his car been pushed back to Nov build; I checked mine and the system says all my parts ordered and Sept build date still confirmed.
Do you think the shift for some PTS is down to colour choice....?
Do you think the shift for some PTS is down to colour choice....?
Perhaps the color 'Gelbgrün' was already tested for the RS's surfaces and 'Maritime Blue' was not. So yours got to stay in scheduled for Sept and his was pushed later build to allow for complete feasibility test (not of color, but of applicability to the RS itself!). Or perhaps paint supplier had 'Gelbgrün' available in stock but not 'Maritime Blue'. One could be delivered in time for September production, but 'Maritime' not until later. Maybe too many PTS cars were scheduled for September...your made the cut, but his was pushed back!
There are many possibilities or explanations why this could have happened regarding PTS for same month allocation & scheduled build.
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Probably even more so for third party suppliers who provide painted parts to the factory. Compared to the state-of-the-art paint shop at Porsche, I wonder if some of their painting facilities may be less able to quickly switch paint colours and break into the production of large quantities of standard colour components.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3/...ly-2015-a.html
Saludos,
Eduardo
Rothenburg on way to Volkach later today!
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