Reference Guide to PTS
#2536
#2538
Rennlist Member
I knew you would get it right. You are the one who got me interested in a PTS RS. Thank you.
Meerblau (Dark Sea Blue) Paint Code A5G
Meerblau (Dark Sea Blue) Paint Code A5G
#2541
Rennlist Member
Does/can anyone on the outside know more about PTS than Eduardo?
In that conversation—nice to run into you, Eduardo!—I did mention something I had remembered from a discussion about Jeff's RS 4.0: Several people had noticed that car's nice paint surfaces and different texture/lack of orange peel compared to normal 987/997 paint. I also have been thinking about some of the paint flaws or "rough/unpolished edges" documented in some GT4 color correction threads (was it the GT4 colour thread on Pistonheads?) with photos that showed examples. Those rough edges looked like leftovers from hand work to me, but who can know? It did make me wonder if the same areas on Porsches in standard colors would show similar flaws in the finish.
Might be interesting to park a few PTS cars with a few standard color cars and really look at the finish and texture of the painted surfaces. If it comes from the same shops and the same machines...it should probably have the same surfaces. Of course, there may be another explanation if it doesn't, but it might point to an off-site painter.
Sounds like a case for the PTS Whisperer...
In that conversation—nice to run into you, Eduardo!—I did mention something I had remembered from a discussion about Jeff's RS 4.0: Several people had noticed that car's nice paint surfaces and different texture/lack of orange peel compared to normal 987/997 paint. I also have been thinking about some of the paint flaws or "rough/unpolished edges" documented in some GT4 color correction threads (was it the GT4 colour thread on Pistonheads?) with photos that showed examples. Those rough edges looked like leftovers from hand work to me, but who can know? It did make me wonder if the same areas on Porsches in standard colors would show similar flaws in the finish.
Might be interesting to park a few PTS cars with a few standard color cars and really look at the finish and texture of the painted surfaces. If it comes from the same shops and the same machines...it should probably have the same surfaces. Of course, there may be another explanation if it doesn't, but it might point to an off-site painter.
Sounds like a case for the PTS Whisperer...
#2542
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
Re: Pete Stout's Comments...
Thanks Pete...I & others here at Rennlist work very hard at it to
make known as much useful information as humanly possible on
this interesting subject, without stepping over the line of confidentiality
with information obtained from reliable sources at Porsche!
***
Let me put this in perspective so that everyone knows precisely
what Pete Stout is referring to in his response today! Here is a
copy of my recent post which mentions Pete by name!
Funny you should say that. I ran into Pete Stout, editor of
PCA's Panorama at the IMSA Laguna Seca race this past
weekend. In discussing the topic, he mentioned that he
thinks that PTS cars have a superior finish to the standard
'stock' cars known to be painted at Zuffenhausen. He
specifically mentioned to me the superb paint (lack of
orange peel in particular) on our friend Jeff Zwart's old
PTS 'Meerblau' 997 gt3 RS 4.0 Limited Edition:
I hope Pete, a frequent Rennlist contributor, chimes in
on his thoughts on the subject. He recently wrote an
editorial about PTS in Panorama, so he is quite knowledgeable
on the subject!
By the way, our own 'Sportscentury', my good friend from
Idaho, wrote an interesting letter to the editor in response
to Pete's PTS column. You can read it in the latest edition
of Panorama:
[/QUOTE]
And here is Pete's reply today to that post:
PTS Whisperer indeed...I just wish PAG would allow
us to understand how the PTS program really works
so that we can even the playing field. The 'little' guy,
if a normal relatively wealthy Porsche customer can
be described as such, might not ever get an opportunity
to order a Limited Edition like the 911R...but he should
have at least a crack at PTS! For heavens sake...our
money is equally as 'green' as those of 918 VIPs!
And we are the loyal customers that have stood with
Porsche our entire lifetime as customers through thick
...and thin!
Did PAG or PCNA respond to your Editor's Note in which
you made some helpful suggestions re PTS in the pages of
PCA's Panorama! To protect copyright material, the image
of your PTS article is too small to read on this post but I
encourage all to open their Feb edition of Pano & read it!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
make known as much useful information as humanly possible on
this interesting subject, without stepping over the line of confidentiality
with information obtained from reliable sources at Porsche!
***
Let me put this in perspective so that everyone knows precisely
what Pete Stout is referring to in his response today! Here is a
copy of my recent post which mentions Pete by name!
PCA's Panorama at the IMSA Laguna Seca race this past
weekend. In discussing the topic, he mentioned that he
thinks that PTS cars have a superior finish to the standard
'stock' cars known to be painted at Zuffenhausen. He
specifically mentioned to me the superb paint (lack of
orange peel in particular) on our friend Jeff Zwart's old
PTS 'Meerblau' 997 gt3 RS 4.0 Limited Edition:
I hope Pete, a frequent Rennlist contributor, chimes in
on his thoughts on the subject. He recently wrote an
editorial about PTS in Panorama, so he is quite knowledgeable
on the subject!
By the way, our own 'Sportscentury', my good friend from
Idaho, wrote an interesting letter to the editor in response
to Pete's PTS column. You can read it in the latest edition
of Panorama:
[/QUOTE]
And here is Pete's reply today to that post:
In that conversation—nice to run into you, Eduardo!—I did
mention something I had remembered from a discussion
about Jeff's RS 4.0: Several people had noticed that car's
nice paint surfaces and different texture/lack of orange
peel compared to normal 987/997 paint. I also have been
thinking about some of the paint flaws or "rough/unpolished
edges" documented in some GT4 color correction threads
(was it the GT4 colour thread on Pistonheads?) with photos
that showed examples. Those rough edges looked like
leftovers from hand work to me, but who can know?
It did make me wonder if the same areas on Porsches
in standard colors would show similar flaws in the finish.
Might be interesting to park a few PTS cars with a few
standard color cars and really look at the finish and
texture of the painted surfaces. If it comes from the
same shops and the same machines...it should probably
have the same surfaces. Of course, there may be another
explanation if it doesn't, but it might point to an
off-site painter.
Sounds like a case for the PTS Whisperer...
mention something I had remembered from a discussion
about Jeff's RS 4.0: Several people had noticed that car's
nice paint surfaces and different texture/lack of orange
peel compared to normal 987/997 paint. I also have been
thinking about some of the paint flaws or "rough/unpolished
edges" documented in some GT4 color correction threads
(was it the GT4 colour thread on Pistonheads?) with photos
that showed examples. Those rough edges looked like
leftovers from hand work to me, but who can know?
It did make me wonder if the same areas on Porsches
in standard colors would show similar flaws in the finish.
Might be interesting to park a few PTS cars with a few
standard color cars and really look at the finish and
texture of the painted surfaces. If it comes from the
same shops and the same machines...it should probably
have the same surfaces. Of course, there may be another
explanation if it doesn't, but it might point to an
off-site painter.
Sounds like a case for the PTS Whisperer...
us to understand how the PTS program really works
so that we can even the playing field. The 'little' guy,
if a normal relatively wealthy Porsche customer can
be described as such, might not ever get an opportunity
to order a Limited Edition like the 911R...but he should
have at least a crack at PTS! For heavens sake...our
money is equally as 'green' as those of 918 VIPs!
And we are the loyal customers that have stood with
Porsche our entire lifetime as customers through thick
...and thin!
Did PAG or PCNA respond to your Editor's Note in which
you made some helpful suggestions re PTS in the pages of
PCA's Panorama! To protect copyright material, the image
of your PTS article is too small to read on this post but I
encourage all to open their Feb edition of Pano & read it!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
#2543
#2544
#2545
True, just confirmed it is a wrap, interesting to see the RS in that color.
#2547
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
Simply stunning!
RS! Enjoy it in good health. For the record, here is Mike's
former 1974 911 RSR /IROC VIN #9114600040.
For more info on this & other IROC 1974 colors see the following
links:
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...l#post12411267
911.460.0016 IROC engine #684 0021, 'Light Yellow', color code 117
911.460.0025 IROC engine #684 0022, 'Grand Prix White', color code 908
911.460.0035 IROC engine #684 0024, 'Gulf Blue', color code 328
911.460.0037 IROC engine #684 0027, 'Yellow Green/Gelbgrün' (called 'Pistachio' by some at the time of the race), color code 137
911.460.0040 IROC engine #684 0023, 'Birch Green/Light Green', color code 253
911.460.0042 IROC engine #684 0025, 'Jade Green/Hellgrün', color code 227
911.460.0050 IROC engine #684 0028, 'Aubergine', color code 025
911.460.0059 IROC engine #684 0029, 'Acid Blue/Bahama Blue', color code 354
911.460.0075 IROC engine #684 0033, 'Mexico Blue', color code 336
911.460.0085 IROC engine #684 0035, 'India Red', color code 027
911.460.0090 IROC engine #684 0031, 'Orange', color code 156
911.460.0100 IROC engine #684 0024, 'Sahara Beige', color code 516
911.460.0111 IROC engine #684 0033, 'Strawberry/Fraise', color code 024
911.460.0116 IROC engine #684 0034, 'Magenta/Karminrot', color code 009
911.460.0124 IROC engine #684 0026, 'Black', color code 041 (or 700)
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...y-gt3s-32.html
Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
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#2548
Drifting
^That's fantastic! Thank you for sharing, Eduardo.. I'm hoping for PTS, por 253 for my inevitable .2 gt3.
#2549
For whoever is going to be at the factory in the coming days....my Gelbgrun car is supposed to end production on the 18th! Infinite brownie points for whoever spot it and send a picture!!!