New PCCB and Track days – Facts Feedback Thread
#151
I agree. The real metric in my mind is $ per trackday. If we can establish that we can all make informed decisions. Pedal feel aside I think we'll all agree the issue is cost- if the rotors last long enough, or if Porsche rotors could be had for 5k like vette rotors, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
On this board we have seen anecdotal word of at least one replacement set on a GT3. Indirect- not posted by the owner.
There is no question the new rotors are better. Far more surface area for cooling and more thermal mass essentially guarantee they will be. The open question is how much better, and under what conditions exactly?
We're crowd sourcing those answers as we speak... RL ftw.
There is no question the new rotors are better. Far more surface area for cooling and more thermal mass essentially guarantee they will be. The open question is how much better, and under what conditions exactly?
We're crowd sourcing those answers as we speak... RL ftw.
#153
12 track days in the Turbo s and sold back to dealer...offered a great price..took the deal and very happy...3 days later dealer principle called to say I had cooked the ceramics on all 4 corners ...asked for a contribution to the costs !!!! Here in UK...we have a Sold as Seen so really they should have given the car a check before paying me...he showed me the discs and yes they were bad ...
First mod on the RS before I track it will be to put the pccbs in a box till I sell the car !!!
First mod on the RS before I track it will be to put the pccbs in a box till I sell the car !!!
#154
12 track days in the Turbo s and sold back to dealer...offered a great price..took the deal and very happy...3 days later dealer principle called to say I had cooked the ceramics on all 4 corners ...asked for a contribution to the costs !!!! Here in UK...we have a Sold as Seen so really they should have given the car a check before paying me...he showed me the discs and yes they were bad ...
First mod on the RS before I track it will be to put the pccbs in a box till I sell the car !!!
First mod on the RS before I track it will be to put the pccbs in a box till I sell the car !!!
#155
Originally Posted by Mech33
How could they tell you cooked them just by looking? They need to take special density measurements to confirm wear.
#156
12 track days in the Turbo s and sold back to dealer...offered a great price..took the deal and very happy...3 days later dealer principle called to say I had cooked the ceramics on all 4 corners ...asked for a contribution to the costs !!!! Here in UK...we have a Sold as Seen so really they should have given the car a check before paying me...he showed me the discs and yes they were bad ...
First mod on the RS before I track it will be to put the pccbs in a box till I sell the car !!!
First mod on the RS before I track it will be to put the pccbs in a box till I sell the car !!!
#159
12 track days in the Turbo s and sold back to dealer...offered a great price..took the deal and very happy...3 days later dealer principle called to say I had cooked the ceramics on all 4 corners ...asked for a contribution to the costs !!!! Here in UK...we have a Sold as Seen so really they should have given the car a check before paying me...he showed me the discs and yes they were bad ...
First mod on the RS before I track it will be to put the pccbs in a box till I sell the car !!!
First mod on the RS before I track it will be to put the pccbs in a box till I sell the car !!!
The Turbo S is a heavier, more powerful car, so you'd expect the rotors to go a little quicker. That said if you were doing ~150 miles per day that's 1800 miles, right on top of the extrapolated estimate for cooking the fronts.
At $22k USD (parts) for the set that'd be over $12 per track mile in rotors alone...
I'd tell the dealer to ask Porsche for a contribution to the costs.
#160
How many miles would you estimate?
The Turbo S is a heavier, more powerful car, so you'd expect the rotors to go a little quicker. That said if you were doing ~150 miles per day that's 1800 miles, right on top of the extrapolated estimate for cooking the fronts.
At $22k USD (parts) for the set that'd be over $12 per track mile in rotors alone...
I'd tell the dealer to ask Porsche for a contribution to the costs.
The Turbo S is a heavier, more powerful car, so you'd expect the rotors to go a little quicker. That said if you were doing ~150 miles per day that's 1800 miles, right on top of the extrapolated estimate for cooking the fronts.
At $22k USD (parts) for the set that'd be over $12 per track mile in rotors alone...
I'd tell the dealer to ask Porsche for a contribution to the costs.
#161
I did the 2014 gumball ... Edinburgh to Ibiza so 2500 hard miles but highway miles ... Some aggressive breaking obviously .. And maybe 2300-2500 track miles ..car was sold with 9400 total miles ...I said the exact same thing to the dealer ask Porsche for the contribution !!
Another useful data point- how many pad changes do you think you had?
2400 track miles gets you to ~$9 per track mile for rotor cost...
#162
5 changes with the pagids and replaced the originals at trade in time .. I did have the 620bhp tech art kit and capristo exhaust ...so the extra power didn't help the wear rate .. And tracked at fast circuits Silverstone and brands hatch GP circuits ..and snetterton and donnington
#163
5 changes with the pagids and replaced the originals at trade in time .. I did have the 620bhp tech art kit and capristo exhaust ...so the extra power didn't help the wear rate .. And tracked at fast circuits Silverstone and brands hatch GP circuits ..and snetterton and donnington
Certainly the power didn't help- if you were able to use it you were probably dumping nearly 20% more energy into the brakes than a GT3, which will push peak temps further.
Very good data points, thanks.
#164
Good info, so six sets of pads total for one set of disks, mostly running the RSC1 Pagid pads designed for tracked PCCB.
Certainly the power didn't help- if you were able to use it you were probably dumping nearly 20% more energy into the brakes than a GT3, which will push peak temps further.
Very good data points, thanks.
Certainly the power didn't help- if you were able to use it you were probably dumping nearly 20% more energy into the brakes than a GT3, which will push peak temps further.
Very good data points, thanks.