Have any of you been offered a late MY2015 allocation gt3 in PTS 'Fashion Grey'?
03-19-2015, 12:56 PM
#16
Eduardo is angling for the "extra" allocation PTS cars Porsche produced in special shades of Gray, Green and red referred to in another RL thread. I guess he has discovered that these cars are truly awarded to select dealers and not allocated to a customer order or a fictitious "story" by the dealer - he once doubted the veracity of that story. McKenna had/has a green one coming in June.
03-19-2015, 02:29 PM
#17
Burning Brakes
So why are these late '15 gt3 allocations with PTS colors showing up, almost all of which are going to dealers and not directly to customers who were initially denied PTS?
Eduardo, it seems clear that the objective here is to award the dealers with a highly desirable bonus allocation. The subterfuge and bogus stories as to the origins of these units are an attempt to avoid pissing off the very customers you reference. I am sure PCNA would prefer you not shine on a light on this PTS scheme.
How has the communication been between you and Porsche Exclusive lately?
Eduardo, it seems clear that the objective here is to award the dealers with a highly desirable bonus allocation. The subterfuge and bogus stories as to the origins of these units are an attempt to avoid pissing off the very customers you reference. I am sure PCNA would prefer you not shine on a light on this PTS scheme.
How has the communication been between you and Porsche Exclusive lately?
03-19-2015, 03:06 PM
#18
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
So why are these late '15 gt3 allocations with PTS colors showing up, almost all of which are going to dealers and not directly to customers who were initially denied PTS?
Eduardo, it seems clear that the objective here is to award the dealers with a highly desirable bonus allocation. The subterfuge and bogus stories as to the origins of these units are an attempt to avoid pissing off the very customers you reference. I am sure PCNA would prefer you not shine on a light on this PTS scheme.
Eduardo, it seems clear that the objective here is to award the dealers with a highly desirable bonus allocation. The subterfuge and bogus stories as to the origins of these units are an attempt to avoid pissing off the very customers you reference. I am sure PCNA would prefer you not shine on a light on this PTS scheme.
If that is the case, they are barking up the wrong tree! I am preparing to break a story here on Rennlist and in this particular gt3 forum that will be quite revealing about PTS and the gt3's. I have obtained this flashlight, you see, and we will start shinning it up places where the sun doesn't often reach...PTS & 'Porsche Exclusive'.
The other more mundane places where the sun doesn't shine is much easier to explore since we have many proctologists who are Rennlisters in this forum!
But PTS & Porsche, that is truly a murky and opaque subject matter! It is the 'terra incognita' of Porschedom and we are often sailing in those seas totally blind...like Columbus on the 'Santa Maria'.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
.
03-19-2015, 03:17 PM
#19
Burning Brakes
No and no. I am 100% in your corner on this one. I just thought I read in another thread that they were not returning your emails, so I conjectured they were trying to dodge you on this matter.
03-19-2015, 03:19 PM
#20
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So why are these late '15 gt3 allocations with PTS colors showing up, almost all of which are going to dealers and not directly to customers who were initially denied PTS?
Eduardo, it seems clear that the objective here is to award the dealers with a highly desirable bonus allocation. The subterfuge and bogus stories as to the origins of these units are an attempt to avoid pissing off the very customers you reference. I am sure PCNA would prefer you not shine on a light on this PTS scheme.
How has the communication been between you and Porsche Exclusive lately?
Eduardo, it seems clear that the objective here is to award the dealers with a highly desirable bonus allocation. The subterfuge and bogus stories as to the origins of these units are an attempt to avoid pissing off the very customers you reference. I am sure PCNA would prefer you not shine on a light on this PTS scheme.
How has the communication been between you and Porsche Exclusive lately?
just sayin.
03-19-2015, 03:51 PM
#21
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
a dealer, even a good one, will be called stealer. much like cops. cops are here to help us (right...) but they get blamed for everything. i appears to me that "awards" and "rewards" should be dished to customers not dealers. b/c when a customer touts the brand, it has way more convincing power than when a dealer touts the brand.
just sayin.
just sayin.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
.
03-19-2015, 04:18 PM
#23
a dealer, even a good one, will be called stealer. much like cops. cops are here to help us (right...) but they get blamed for everything. i appears to me that "awards" and "rewards" should be dished to customers not dealers. b/c when a customer touts the brand, it has way more convincing power than when a dealer touts the brand.
just sayin.
just sayin.
1. Porsche cannot sell directly to customers of dealers.
2. Even if #1 weren't an issue, how would Porsche implement such a program, what criteria would be fair that reward its best customers, without pissing off the majority who weren't deemed "worthy" for a limited allocation of PTS or special model cars?
Granting these extra PTS cars to dealers is an easy way out for Porsche. However, I'll wager Porsche would love to hear alternatives that don't run afoul of state franchise laws.
03-19-2015, 04:20 PM
#24
Burning Brakes
Eduardo is angling for the "extra" allocation PTS cars Porsche produced in special shades of Gray, Green and red referred to in another RL thread. I guess he has discovered that these cars are truly awarded to select dealers and not allocated to a customer order or a fictitious "story" by the dealer - he once doubted the veracity of that story. McKenna had/has a green one coming in June.
03-19-2015, 04:30 PM
#27
And thanks eduardo for bringing this info to the RL masses.
03-19-2015, 04:31 PM
#28
Burning Brakes
Maybe these dealers agreed to take a couple Porsche Pigs, aka the Panamera Executive models, in exchange for a PTS GT3. Porsche reportedly can't give away those cars and the sales incentives haven't helped. I suspect these PTS GT3 rewards were given to dealers who really delivered on their numbers, or who moved extra slow selling units. Porsche is making a big push for 200,000 units, and the dealer network figures prominently in this drive.
While I agree with Mooty on a purely marketing, brand image and PR basis; throwing these incentive, high-spec PTS units at dealers that are exceeding their targets, results in incremental gains measured in millions, not thousands.
While I agree with Mooty on a purely marketing, brand image and PR basis; throwing these incentive, high-spec PTS units at dealers that are exceeding their targets, results in incremental gains measured in millions, not thousands.
03-19-2015, 05:01 PM
#29
Yes I suspect you can expect an additional 10 "fashion gray" brethren to join the ranks.
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