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Old 06-09-2014, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by fibredog
Here's my point of view... I know which one I'd want..


Z06
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Pictures worth a thousand words.
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Originally Posted by FlatSix911
Forgot to include most powerful production V8 on the planet: Ford Shelby GT500 - 662 hp (starting MSRP of $55k).
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Originally Posted by fibredog
Here's my point of view... I know which one I'd want..


Z06
Attachment 842015

GT3
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LOL...But if I had one request with the "GT3" is that the "her" right "headlight"
be "boosted up" a little to match the left one
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I WANT to buy this car. The interior space and visibility gives me pause. MUCH better in the 991.

BTW NO WAY its starts at $75k. I bet the "base" 06 will start closer to $90k before any "Market adjustment."
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^Agree
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
^Agree
+1.

Yep. If the Z06 is $75k, the amazing value of the Z28 erodes immediately if a stablemate drastically outguns it.

While this car will outperform the 3 and the RS (and for less money), I'm not personally swayed away from the GT3. In the end, you love what you love, "wart" and all.
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Originally Posted by rosenbergendo
Amazing amazing car. It will kill all Porsches up to and possibly including 918.

lol. are you kidding man?

this wont touch the gt3, turbo, or turbo s, much less the 918 in a straight line or 1/4 mile.

the 0-60 of the regular corvette stingray is ~4.4 sec. (EVO magazine) the zo6 may knock a second off that at the most. thats still behind every 911, except the carrera s.


as for track performance, lets face it, 80-90% of owners will hardly ever take any of these cars to the track.
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Originally Posted by mainly
lol. are you kidding man?

this wont touch the gt3, turbo, or turbo s, much less the 918 in a straight line or 1/4 mile.

the 0-60 of the regular corvette stingray is ~4.4 sec. (EVO magazine) the zo6 may knock a second off that at the most. thats still behind every 911, except the carrera s.


as for track performance, lets face it, 80-90% of owners will hardly ever take any of these cars to the track.
Must disagree. The base C-7 does 0-60 in 4.2 and it has 470hp. The GT-R has 85 more hp than the C7 weighs more close to 3900 pds and it does 0-60 in 3.2 (it is AWD). The new Z06 will have almost 200 more hp than the C7 AND probably weigh less.
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Originally Posted by Nick
Must disagree. The base C-7 does 0-60 in 4.2 and it has 470hp. The GT-R has 85 more hp than the C7 weighs more close to 3900 pds and it does 0-60 in 3.2 (it is AWD). The new Z06 will have almost 200 more hp than the C7 AND probably weigh less.
right and the new zo6 is also RWD. so it wont be as quick as the gtr. and the gtr is more like 2.9 sec.

weigh less than the c7?

id say it will weigh more.
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Originally Posted by mainly
lol. are you kidding man?

this wont touch the gt3, turbo, or turbo s, much less the 918 in a straight line or 1/4 mile.

the 0-60 of the regular corvette stingray is ~4.4 sec. (EVO magazine) the zo6 may knock a second off that at the most. thats still behind every 911, except the carrera s.


as for track performance, lets face it, 80-90% of owners will hardly ever take any of these cars to the track.
0-60 does not mean anything, the new Z06 will walk any non Race Porsche except the 918, might even give a Cup a run for its money on any track
And there are plenty Z06's on track

Don't know where you get your info

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Originally Posted by mike2727
0-60 does not mean anything, the new Z06 will walk any non Race Porsche except the 918, might even give a Cup a run for its money on any track
And there are plenty Z06's on track

Don't know where you get your info

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its not my info its all from magazines who tested the cars.
911 turbo s 0-60 is 2.6 seconds.
turbo a couple tenths more, and the gt3 is 3.0 seconds flat.

0-60 does not mean anything? uh yeah it does. sorry.

it matters a lot more to me than track times achieved by a professional driver which none of us will ever come close to.

0-60 and 1/4 mile times - everyone will be able to achieve.

so yes these things do matter.

you think the z06 with a manual trans. is going to do 0-60 in under 3 seconds?

the turbo s will destroy the new z06 from a dig all the way up to about 120 mph.

after that, who gives a F&$#?


they raced the 911 turbo s against the f12 berlinetta from a dig and it took until 100 mph for the f12 to catch up. and the 911 wasnt even using launch control.!! the z06 will fair worse because of its lower power and its inferior(well its inferior everything)

theres more to going fast than just having loads of power and being lightweight.

how do you think i destroyed the new mustang gt500(660 hp) in the 1/4 mile over and over again in my m5, which is 6-700 lbs heavier and down 100 hp?


who cares about the track? like i said, hardly anyone will be going there.
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Originally Posted by mainly
its not my info its all from magazines who tested the cars.
911 turbo s 0-60 is 2.6 seconds.
turbo a couple tenths more, and the gt3 is 3.0 seconds flat.

0-60 does not mean anything? uh yeah it does. sorry.

it matters a lot more to me than track times achieved by a professional driver which none of us will ever come close to.

0-60 and 1/4 mile times - everyone will be able to achieve.

so yes these things do matter.

you think the z06 with a manual trans. is going to do 0-60 in under 3 seconds?

the turbo s will destroy the new z06 from a dig all the way up to about 120 mph.

after that, who gives a F&$#?


they raced the 911 turbo s against the f12 berlinetta from a dig and it took until 100 mph for the f12 to catch up. and the 911 wasnt even using launch control.!! the z06 will fair worse because of its lower power and its inferior(well its inferior everything)

theres more to going fast than just having loads of power and being lightweight.

how do you think i destroyed the new mustang gt500(660 hp) in the 1/4 mile over and over again in my m5, which is 6-700 lbs heavier and down 100 hp?


who cares about the track? like i said, hardly anyone will be going there.
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the sole purpose of the GT3 track work? It is not designed as a dragster nor is the 06. The Z06 will destroy every Porsche except the 918 on a track. There is no getting away from the fact.

Street drag racing generally is not something Porsche drivers do.
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We have a small Porsche collection. 997.3RS, 67S, 911 Speedster and a few others. We love Porsches and always will.

With that said the Z06 resets the rules. Just does.

Porsche needs to pay attention and (maybe...just maybe...) rethink their pricing. They are the most profitable car company because many of us (me included) have seen the value vs the competition.

I will be the first to admit there is a snobbery effect in play with Porsche vs a mere 'Corvette'. Porsche has the best marketing department in all of car-dome. One buys a Porsche because they buy into the marketing messages. At some point Porsche is selling the sizzle and not the steak.

Before you bought a Corvette because it was a great car for the money. Now its just a great car that happens to be priced well.

A fully loaded Z06 will be less than $100k. A similar Porsche GT3RS will be $200k+.

I put $2k down on a Z06 at MSRP. Arrival next summer.
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Originally Posted by VegasSpeedy
We have a small Porsche collection. 997.3RS, 67S, 911 Speedster and a few others. We love Porsches and always will..
holy crap buddy, brag much?
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Originally Posted by Nick
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the sole purpose of the GT3 track work? It is not designed as a dragster nor is the 06. The Z06 will destroy every Porsche except the 918 on a track.

maybe it will, maybe it wont.

but with an almost 200 hp advantage and similar weight, it bloody well SHOULD wouldnt you think? no matter what the price difference. no amount of engineering can overcome that kind of power deficit.

as i said i dont really care about the track performance.

but, id bet the average driver would be able to extract more performance out of the 991 gt3 than from the manual z06.


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